Arimidex/Liquidex for fat loss?

[DaMan]

I've read a few suggestions re using anastrozole off cycle for estrogen-related fat loss, specifically around the luv handles and them titties... I have handles and dnp and yohimburn are doin' the job but won't get rid of that last bit, what do y'all think?

 

[Zyglamail]

Well, I posted this in the other thread too, but what the hell, can never have to much info can we

Effect of chronic administration of an aromatase inhibitor to adult male rats on pituitary and testicular function and fertility.

Turner KJ, Morley M, Atanassova N, Swanston ID, Sharpe RM.

MRC Reproductive Biology Unit, Centre for Reproductive Biology, 37 Chalmers Street, Edinburgh EH3 9EW, Scotland, UK. [email protected]

The aim of the present study was to evaluate the effects of the administration of a potent non-steroidal aromatase inhibitor, anastrozole, on male reproductive function in adult rats. As anastrozole was to be administered via the drinking water, a preliminary study was undertaken in female rats and showed that this route of administration was effective in causing a major decrease in uterine weight (P<0.02). In an initial study in male adult rats, anastrozole (100 mg/l or 400 mg/l) was administered via the drinking water for a period of 9 weeks. Treatment with either dose resulted in a significant increase ( approximately 10%) in testis weight and increase in plasma FSH concentrations (P<0.01) throughout the 9 weeks. Mating was altered in both groups of anastrozole-treated rats, as they failed to produce copulatory plugs. Histological evaluation of the testes from anastrozole-treated rats revealed that spermatogenesis was grossly normal. In a more detailed study, adult rats were treated with 200 mg/l anastrozole via the drinking water for periods ranging from 2 weeks to 1 year. Plasma FSH and testosterone concentrations were increased significantly (P<0.001) during the first 19 weeks of treatment. However, LH concentrations were increased only at 19 weeks (P<0.001) in anastrozole-treated rats, and this coincided with a further increase in circulating and intratesticular testosterone concentrations (P<0.05). No consistent change in inhibin-B concentrations was observed during the study. Suppression of plasma oestradiol concentrations could not be demonstrated in anastrozole-treated animals, but oestradiol concentrations in testicular interstitial fluid were reduced by 18% (P<0.01). Mating was again inhibited by anastrozole treatment, but could be restored by s.c. injection of oestrogen, enabling demonstration that rats treated for 10 weeks or 9 months were still fertile. Testis weight was increased by 19% and 6% after treatment for 19 weeks and 1 year, respectively. Body weight was significantly decreased (P<0.01) by 19 weeks of anastrozole treatment; after 1 year the animals appeared to have less fat as indicated by a 27% decrease in the weight of the gonadal fat pad. The majority of anastrozole-treated animals had testes with normal spermatogenesis but, occasionally, seminiferous tubules showed abnormal loss of germ cells or contained only Sertoli cells. Ten percent of anastrozole-treated animals had testes that appeared to contain only Sertoli cells, and one rat had 'giant' testes in which the tubule lumens were severely dilated. Morphometric analysis of the normal testes at 19 weeks showed no difference in the number of Sertoli cells or germ cells, or the percentage volumes of the seminiferous epithelium, tubule lumens and interstitium between control and anastrozole-treated rats. On the basis of the present findings, oestrogen appears to be involved in the regulation of FSH secretion and testosterone production, and is also essential for normal mating behaviour in male rats. Furthermore, these data suggest that the brain and the hypothalamo-pituitary axis are considerably more susceptible than is the testis to the effects of an aromatase inhibitor. Anastrozole treatment has resulted in a model of brain oestrogen insufficiency.

 

[supertraps]

Can Nolva have a similar effect in between cycles?

I only ask b/c I have it on hand

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Mr. X said that he got the best fat loss results while using arimidex during his cutting cycle.

I think it will definatly help out if you have estrogenic fatty deposits, (ass fat, thigh fat, lower back fat, etc.).

Try Zinc and Yohimburn at the same time. Maybe some Ox too. And most importantly a clean diet.

High Protein, High Unsaturated fats, low low low carbs.

 

[DaMan]

Mr. X said that he got the best fat loss results while using arimidex during his cutting cycle.

I think it will definatly help out if you have estrogenic fatty deposits, (ass fat, thigh fat, lower back fat, etc.).

Try Zinc and Yohimburn at the same time. Maybe some Ox too. And most importantly a clean diet.

High Protein, High Unsaturated fats, low low low carbs.

K, bump for Mr. X and Macro then.

Why the Zinc, btw?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Low levels of ZINC, which are common among atheletes, lead to increased levels of aromatase...

 

[HappyScrappy]

slightly unrelated, but I've also read that low levels of zinc will make your taste weakened (as in tongue, not as in plaid) and also it makes you fatigued.

the side effects of too much zinc? makes you tired....

so I'm not sure when to know that you have the right amount, esp since I'm always tired all the time anyway.

 

[Chuck T]

Ok so if this is true then does it work by the liquidex preventing estrogen from being created so when you lose weight there will be no estrogen there to help the estro-fat deposits stay. I dont know if that is true but if it is then if you took it with yohimburn or the like would it help shed the estro-fat even faster? Also I am going to do a fina only cutting cycle early next year and was wondering if addind liquidex would help cut fat.(I know it wont help stop progesterone but am wondering about helping the fat loss)


-Chuck

 

[Italianboy]

+androgens and -estrogens=more fatloss and mucle growth.But a little E are appreciated!