c gheller said:How much Adex if any should i run with my HRT dose of 250mg/week?
c gheller said:Yes it is Doc prescribed and i have had countless tests and seen any number of Endos. I have been contemplating HRT since 2000 when my issues started, but have rode out the symptoms until now. This is NOT by choice as i know some do, i have two small kids and i need the energy to keep up with them. Thanks X
Is that due to the test being at a moderate dose or because it's an hrt 'cycle'? I usually see adex recommended at .5mg ED but that's with doses of test much higher than 250.Mr.X said:Low dose arimidex is all you need .25mgs EOD (even E3D) is fine.
c gheller said:Yes it is Doc prescribed and i have had countless tests and seen any number of Endos. I have been contemplating HRT since 2000 when my issues started, but have rode out the symptoms until now. This is NOT by choice as i know some do, i have two small kids and i need the energy to keep up with them. Thanks X
Mr.X said:I'm assuming your HRT is doctor prescribed, I suggest you talk to him first before taking tips on EF. If not, .25mgs EOD is fine.
UrlMighty said:Is that due to the test being at a moderate dose or because it's an hrt 'cycle'? I usually see adex recommended at .5mg ED but that's with doses of test much higher than 250.
Mr.X said:I'm assuming your HRT is doctor prescribed, I suggest you talk to him first before taking tips on EF. If not, .25mgs EOD is fine.
phatrr said:What are your E2 levels like? What else are you taking as part of your HRT? What does your doc say about the amount of Adex to take?
c gheller said:Well Bro my Doc doesnt seem to have much of a clue, even what blood test i require monitoring. I am trying desperately to find a Doc willing to help with knowledge on this. Even two of the endo's ive seen are very basic. Although i have seen a feww Endos all saying the same thing , i am not going to commit myself to this with out the right people on my team........ all the Bros here have been awesome!
phatrr said:FWIW: check out http://www.allthingsmale.com . If you like what you see, drop Dr. Crisler a note/give him a call. IMO, he's a great guy. He can work with your doctor or directly with you.
c gheller said:Thanks Bro. To work with someone like him would be a dream. Unfortunately im in Australia...long long way away. We have no resources like that here. You guys are sooo lucky.
phatrr said:I'd venture to say that he might consult with you via e-mail/fax.
c gheller said:Thanks Bro. To work with someone like him would be a dream. Unfortunately im in Australia...long long way away. We have no resources like that here. You guys are sooo lucky.
c gheller said:Well Bro my Doc doesnt seem to have much of a clue, even what blood test i require monitoring. I am trying desperately to find a Doc willing to help with knowledge on this. Even two of the endo's ive seen are very basic. Although i have seen a feww Endos all saying the same thing , i am not going to commit myself to this with out the right people on my team........ all the Bros here have been awesome!
Mr.X said:I'm sure in a country with millions of ppl. you'll be able to find a good HRT doctor, it'll take some search I suspect.
mrplunkey said:I do physician-monitored HRT.
They used to give me 200 mg's of Cyponate EW and even at that light dose, they had me on 0.5 mg's of Adex EoD starting at week 3
Now, with 250 mg's/week of "Ultratest" they have me at 0.5 mg's EoD
And a while back, I talked them into 10 weeks of 450 mg's of "Ultratest" EW (long story)... but even then they had me at 0.5 mg's EoD.
I may just have a lazy HRT doc!
If you use Adex too much and drive your Estrogen levels too low, I think you may have erection problems.
PolfaJelfa said:IMO its not needed and could worsen your lipid levels over long term use.
I dont think there is anything unhealthy about a little estrogen. It helps with lipids.
Ulter what is E-1 and E-2? Pardon my ignorance on this.
c gheller said:I am searching Bro believe me. But i feel so shit right now in all aspects im desperate to get the ball rolling.....with the right help of course. I dont want to do anything that my jeopardise my health long term.
c gheller said:Yes but if you are experiencing E sides then you would need Arimidex....yes?
Ulter said:Actually you're better off not working with Crisler. First of all he's not a medical doctor and second he learned most of what he knows about PCT from this board.
No, he didn't. I was written up in 90's but disgaurded because it never made sense to add estrogen to a cycle. Now the people are using AI's in their cycles it's not as bad an idea. Although I don't recommend it.Seems strange that he has developed an original hcg protocol, and done some solid research to back it up.
Ulter said:No, he didn't. I was written up in 90's but disgaurded because it never made sense to add estrogen to a cycle. Now the people are using AI's in their cycles it's not as bad an idea. Although I don't recommend it.
FWIW he's been banned on several boards over the last 4 years for solicitation.
Ulter said:PJ
There is no such thing as estrogen as a hormone. Since it's easier to use to that word than to explain every time that they are "estrogens" people just use the word that way.
Estrogens are catagory of hormones not the name of one. E1 is estrone and E2 is estrodial.
phatrr said:I'm not saying you're wrong, but, I've heard that he learned everything from:
(a) the old MFW newsgroup back in the 90's
(b) here
(c) Bill Roberts
Seems strange that he has developed an original hcg protocol, and done some solid research to back it up.
Yes, he's not an MD. He's a DO - and, fwiw, I've always picked DO's over MD's. They're allowed to prescribe, operate, they get board certified, admitting privileges, have specialties and sub-specialties. The big difference is that they are trained in a more holistic approach, including nutrition.
My family doctor/sports medicine is a DO. So are the 8 other partners in his practice.
OTOH, the MD I used to go to told me that as I got older, I should stop lifting weights and accept a lowered sex drive, and just learn to age normally, and that if I took any kind of HRT/TRT, I'd die a horrible nasty death.
Just my experience, of course.
PolfaJelfa said:What sides are you experiencing?
c gheller said:I Have managed to contact a Doc here, that i was referred by John Crisler. He seems very knowledgable having spoken to him by phone. We will see.
Thank you for taking the time to help.
phatrr said:You're welcome, of course - glad I could at least give you a suggestion.
Excellent news, bro. Keep us posted on how it works out for you. Good luck!
c gheller said:How much Adex if any should i run with my HRT dose of 250mg/week?
ALIN said:0.25mg should work perfect
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