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Gigantasor
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Honestly, when you think about it do you consider gear to be a drug or just another supplement?
I have my own opionion but what about you?
Drug or NO?
I have my own opionion but what about you?
Drug or NO?
Are AAS technically a drug?
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Gigantasor
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Ok. Maybe the word technically was mis-used. But still the question remains.
If their drugs then what seperates us from those who use other more intense drugs which I will not name?
If their drugs then what seperates us from those who use other more intense drugs which I will not name?
SofaGeorge
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drug
n.
A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.
Such a substance as recognized or defined by the U.S. Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.
Obsolete. A chemical or dye
n.
A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.
Such a substance as recognized or defined by the U.S. Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.
Obsolete. A chemical or dye
Silent Method
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drug
a substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the body
a substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the body
evander1972
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Nothing a drugs a drug whatever it is or for what ever reason you are using it. It all comes down to what you think is acceptable.
geoffgarst
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drug.
period.
period.
Its about perception and morals really, you need to be your own judge. Personally I find taking AAS more morally acceptable than going under the knife and getting all cut up to improve my body. Others may not see it that way. In the end, I am pro choice, its my body and I should have the right to do with it as I see fit as long as it does not endanger others.gigantasor said:
A mother has the right to destroy her unborn child. People can starve themself to death yet they can not commit suicide(hmm, kind of hipocritical isnt it). They can drink themselves to death, smoke until they get cancer and die, the list goes on.
grim_reapin
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I feel the same way as zyg. Its all bullshit how so many people think steroids is the devil or something. I mean the government allows cigarettes/alcohol (not sayin im against this) but then they want to have steroids illegal. Its all bs if ya ask me. If I take steroids I feel its my choice not someone elses. Im not affecting those around me. The only way I see myself affecting those around me is when someone looks at you and says to themselves "wow I wish I could looked like that" and I dont see how this is a bad thing. There are so many hypnocrits out there. Ive had people say they think Im cheating and taking the easy route using steroids. This is when I get into a huge argument with them. Thats like me saying to them..."hey I use supplements I guess im cheating cuz that helps me get to my goals". People like this just piss me off royally. After studying steroids and looking into it etc ive found for myself that its not such a bad thing after all as long as you do it correctly. So I guess you can call it a drug by definetion but like said above advils a drug.
Dr. M
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gigantasor said:
With the drugs we choose to use, the intent is a better physique (in our opinion, at any rate). Some may argue we're in fact seeking a high - the high that comes from having a better body - but I still see a large difference.
You take test, or tren, or whatever you're cycling... you still have to get in the gym and work HARD at improving your body. It's easier to make gains (with proper diet, training, and rest) than when you're natural, but it's still a lot of work when on gear. For me, when on gear I'm ultra-motivated to train that little bit harder; if I won't do it now, I'll never be able to do it.
When you shoot heroin, it doesn't matter if you intend to do anything or not - the high is still the same high whether you work at it or not.
It's a different mentality.
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Silent Method
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What seperates us? Assumingly we're not using those other drugs.gigantasor said:
devildog93
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I would say the goal is towards improvement rather than one of distraction. Most steroid users i would assume are trying to surpass their natural limits,or at least make it easier to reach their potential. In theory i would guess an athlete on cocaine only using it for the performance aspect in competition would be following the same line of thought,though arguably the drug might be harsher.
Kind of odd what drugs our country chooses to prosecute against the use of and how it changes through the years. I suppose legalizing everything and prosecuting crimes such as murder,driving under the influence(of alcohol,cocaine,etc.) ,robbery,etc. that might result just makes more sense to me. It's not that i'm soft on crime,but i see no sense of calling it a crime unless it effects someone outside the drug user. I guess they could try it on a case by case basis and take the clamps off one at a time to see what happens rather than taking an amsterdam approach. Might be interesting to see what happens. Prisons are big business though,and i'm sure the prison system isn't real hip on having a large growing industry cut into.
Kind of odd what drugs our country chooses to prosecute against the use of and how it changes through the years. I suppose legalizing everything and prosecuting crimes such as murder,driving under the influence(of alcohol,cocaine,etc.) ,robbery,etc. that might result just makes more sense to me. It's not that i'm soft on crime,but i see no sense of calling it a crime unless it effects someone outside the drug user. I guess they could try it on a case by case basis and take the clamps off one at a time to see what happens rather than taking an amsterdam approach. Might be interesting to see what happens. Prisons are big business though,and i'm sure the prison system isn't real hip on having a large growing industry cut into.
To answer the original question:
I would say any substance that is designed to override a certain function in the human body (like a hormone or an enzyme) is definitely a drug.
That's what drugs do, they override certain processes in the human body. Depending on what that is, is where the question of danger comes in.
Supplements by definition do not override functions in the body. They are more meant to optimize them (like Creatine, for example)
So going by that notion, Caffeine would be considered a drug, but ALA would be a supplement.
As for AAS being illegal, it's simple. Politicians don't want the common citizen to be huge and strong. I'm sure the Police Departments cringe when they think about having to wrestle 400lbs guys every hour of everyday. It's easier when these people are taking rec. drug that actually hinder them from fighting back.
Also, the enourmous amounts of revenue made in illegal drugs is far more than what they'd make if they were legalized. At least that's what they might think.
I would say any substance that is designed to override a certain function in the human body (like a hormone or an enzyme) is definitely a drug.
That's what drugs do, they override certain processes in the human body. Depending on what that is, is where the question of danger comes in.
Supplements by definition do not override functions in the body. They are more meant to optimize them (like Creatine, for example)
So going by that notion, Caffeine would be considered a drug, but ALA would be a supplement.
As for AAS being illegal, it's simple. Politicians don't want the common citizen to be huge and strong. I'm sure the Police Departments cringe when they think about having to wrestle 400lbs guys every hour of everyday. It's easier when these people are taking rec. drug that actually hinder them from fighting back.
Also, the enourmous amounts of revenue made in illegal drugs is far more than what they'd make if they were legalized. At least that's what they might think.
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Frackal
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People at GNC buy fat burners, than criticize our posters of bodybuilders for being cheaters by using steroids.
pyrros dimas
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Ashamed
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F117A Active Stealth said:
Wrong... governments feel the need to protect us from whatever the media is scaremongering about.... whether it be terrorism, excstacy, steroids.. whatever.. the government only acts if the media creates a moral outrage... the government also feels compelled to nanny us... to mother us.... to protect us from ourselves....
That has a lot to do with it but at the same time I have the feeling so many people in government are incapable of tackling real issues because there is simply too much opposition, back stabbing, pocket lining and toe stepping that real issues that affect all of us simply cant be agreed upon or tackled in a timely fashion. What does that leave for governemtn to do?? Well, they then persue the path of least resistance instead of what needs to be done. The go after things that are not FOR the majority, but things that are not protected BY the majority.Ashamed said:
Our government was designed around a world where there was no glabal internet, no telephones(or few anyway), no rapid transportation, no way to quickly count and verify votes. The dark ages are long gone yet we still cling to the methodologies of running this country. I for one think the power should be put back into the hands of the people. Maybe its not feasable today, but in the next 10 years it should be. A democracy is supposed to be BY the people FOR the people but it is neither at the present moment. In the grand scheme of things we, as individuals, have virtually NO say in anything, especially the smaller issues like the suppliment ban that doesnt affect the majority....or at least doesnt affect them enough for them to care.
pharmguy
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Yes, AAS are drugs. They are hormone anaolgues and can be used to treat a variety of conditions. When abused they have consequences. Obviuosly I have decided that the risks are worth the benefits, or I would not be using them. I find it ridiculous, like ZYG says, that smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol is legal, along with plastic surgery and AAS is not legal. And here is some More Ridiculous shit. In my endocrinlology lecture the other day, the fucking lady was saying "hormones are just neat, etc etc, and that TOO MUCH TESTOSTERONE CAN MAKE A MAN A RAPIST!" I almost fucking died. I was thinking, maybe I should demonstrate after class since I currently have 40-50 times the physiological amount. I think it goes along with the lates man-hating Life-time channel women's fucking rule Bullshit. female hromones okay, mens hormone are bad. well Im SICK OF IT!
