I got a vial of Apex Trenbo-75 but wasn't sure if it was real or not as the batch and expiry were printed in the same ink as the label, also smudged easily. Anyway I gave it to a friend who was happy to give it a go anyway, he's been doing 75mg eod for just about 3 weeks and has had nothing happen whatsoever, no strength, no gains, nothing. So its either fake, or shit gear! I'd get some British Dragon mate, much better gear.