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Anyone try EPO?

All I know is that you better know what you are doing and be under a Dr's care....

EPO has been "linked" to several cyclist death over the years by turning their blood into slug... (my research not fact)

But an EXCELLENT question.... I @ one time researched the idea of using it for cycling. But the risk for me was not worth it....
I have posted this same question on other boards and had no responce. I would add GEREF to that question.

Any used/tried GEREF???
 
LVTitan said:
nope, too dangerous to screw around with IMO.
try eq

I've tried EQ to improve performance in distance running because of it's ability to naturally raise EPO. However, my calves got so pumped from the EQ that I could only run about 2 miles before I had to stop and stretch them out. It kind of defeats the purpose.
 
EPO (erythropoietin) is a hormone produced by the kidney that stimulates the bone marrow into producing more red blood cells. In theory, the greater the RBC mass, the greater the oxygen-carrying capacity and hence its use in endurance sports. The main problem is that with an increase in Hct, we get a corresponding decrease in viscosity, and the blood will tend to sludge and clog the smaller blood vessels. Most of the deaths attributed to use of this drug have been associated with dehydration (mostly cyclists) because their decreased water content, combined with the decreased viscosity, caused their blood cells clog the arteries and cause strokes. I think this would be a poor choice in bodybuilding because of the compounds atheletes are already using. #1 many AAS already cause a marked increase in RBC production (notably Deca and test which we sometimes use to treat anemia); and #2 diuretics which are being used at competition time to lose water. It's rumored in medical circles that it was the EPO sludge brought on by dehydration that killed Andreas Muntzer. I can see a theoretical benefit in training as a super Nitro-like O2 delivery system, but an absolute no-no for competition use.
 
nydj66 said:
I've tried EQ to improve performance in distance running because of it's ability to naturally raise EPO. However, my calves got so pumped from the EQ that I could only run about 2 miles before I had to stop and stretch them out. It kind of defeats the purpose.


How much EQ was you using? Was EQ the only thing you were using while training for distance??
 
mhb3939 said:
How much EQ was you using? Was EQ the only thing you were using while training for distance??

When I got the debilitating calve cramps, I was using 400mg/week of EQ along with 300mg/week of test enanthate.

I do find that low dosage test and deca can help (a little) with endurance training as long as you don't go too high in dosage and start to put on mass.
 
But it must work because a 7x Tour de france winner must be doing something right? Also I was thinking of using it for my MMA training but after what you guys wrote about dying I think I will pass lol... unless I can find an expert on EPO to guide me through safe and correct way.
 
Saiyagin said:
But it must work because a 7x Tour de france winner must be doing something right? Also I was thinking of using it for my MMA training but after what you guys wrote about dying I think I will pass lol... unless I can find an expert on EPO to guide me through safe and correct way.

Armstrong admitted from day one he took EPO for 3 months in '96 as part of his cancer treatment. If he took it during racing it would have been found long before now. They've been testing hematocrit for years now.
 
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