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Anyone read The Selfish Gene?

Yep good stuff but a bit outdated now

Too bad he has not written a book for a while
 
anthrax said:
Yep good stuff but a bit outdated now

Too bad he has not written a book for a while

Outdated in the sense that it was written a long time ago? Yes

Outdated in the sense that the theory/thought process is no longer relevant? Certainly not
 
Whoa, a C&C thread I might actually give a shit about. Excellent book.

Good point about it being outdated. Evolution pretty much stopped circa 1979.
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
you douchebag, that's the worst bastardization of Maslow's hierarchy of needs I've ever seen. Go bang a stripper


my theory?

it's not relevant to closet homosexuals who still suck their thumbs and live in mommy's basement.
 
KillahBee said:
Heh, that was another of the few I've been tempted to reply to, but Maslow's theory just seems too simplistic/flawed to worry about trying to revise or correct it or to accept it as a premise for discussion. While there's certainly a general truth to it, human needs aren't as neatly compartmentalized or sequentially fulfilled as in the theory (pretty much the point you were making). Plus, there's the issue of the circularity of defining what constitutes self-actualization.

The Red Queen is the only Ridley I've read, and it'd probably be in my list of top 5 books if I were the sort to make such lists. If you liked the broader applicability of the ideas about competition in The Selfish Gene, I think you'd like that aspect of The Red Queen as well.
 
Cynical Simian said:
Heh, that was another of the few I've been tempted to reply to, but Maslow's theory just seems too simplistic/flawed to worry about trying to revise or correct it or to accept it as a premise for discussion. While there's certainly a general truth to it, human needs aren't as neatly compartmentalized or sequentially fulfilled as in the theory (pretty much the point you were making). Plus, there's the issue of the circularity of defining what constitutes self-actualization.

The Red Queen is the only Ridley I've read, and it'd probably be in my list of top 5 books if I were the sort to make such lists. If you liked the broader applicability of the ideas about competition in The Selfish Gene, I think you'd like that aspect of The Red Queen as well.
I'm about 50 pages deep into Red Queen right now as well.

lol, I need to just read one at a time.
 
The last member of my triumvirate of general evolutionary psychology/theory books would be The Third Chimpanzee by Jared Diamond. Like Selfish Gene and Red Queen, it's pretty well-known, so you're probably already reading it. :p
 
Cynical Simian said:
The last member of my triumvirate of general evolutionary psychology/theory books would be The Third Chimpanzee by Jared Diamond. Like Selfish Gene and Red Queen, it's pretty well-known, so you're probably already reading it. :p
it's sitting in an amazon.com box on my desk at work :)
 
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