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Anyone know anyone who has been clean for 2+ years?

JoNeS

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I heard that once you stop using gear for an extended period of time, ie) 2 years, all of your gains become lost.

Not the size gains that you would have made naturally during the time you used, but only the gear related gains. Is this true?
 
I was off for about 3.5 years. But in that time i did not workout that much. So in retrospect i would say that you would most likely loose most of your gains that were above and beyond what your natural limit would be. I have been as high as 275 when "on" and shrunk down to 215 after a prolonged off period. I can now maintain a natural 220-225 weight. When i started with gear i was 185 and flabby, also my height of 6'3 is still the same.
 
I was off for 16 years and I kept some size, but I put on size naturally too.
 
jrc04444 said:
do most of you find that size goes but as long as you maintain the strength doesnt???????

Strength and weight retention after discontinuing AAS is based on your maintenance regimen. Most people tend to slack in their training and diet once they have reach their goal because they feel as if it's too much hassle to maintain it and just want to enjoy life a little more. If you continue to train (wisely without over training) and diet properly after you discontinue AAS you will not lose all of your hard earned gains, yes you will lose some strength because your body will automatically begin to shed some water and sodium (water and sodium retention is the main cause of the dramatic strength increase while cycling which is also the cause of the high blood pressure). And yes you will lose a little mass because alot of it is probably water as well as the fact that alot of us juicing really don't know a damn thing about proper dieting and AAS gives us that extra edge (room for error) as well as a lot of us don't realize that "YOU CAN NOT TRAIN THE SAME WHEN OFF AAS AS YOU TRAINED WHEN ON AND EXPECT NOT TO OVERTRAIN!!!" If you want to go off for a good period of time and keep your gains, number one you must change the way you trained when on...bring the down the amount of reps, the amount of sets and the amount of days in the gym. Maintain your eating schedule without over doing the protein because once you go off, your body naturally can not effeciently digest 400g of protein, thus it will begin storing it as fat. Rotate between heavy weight days and moderate weight days, but never stop trying to push heavier weight for the 4 to 6 rep range because that is what gave you the size in the first place thus is what is needed to keep it and even increase it! Once your body adjust to new muscle weight it won't try to shed it off so quickly and it will then become easier to maintain!
 
Was off for over four years.

During that period, I continued to train hard.

Lost all my aas related body weight gains, but strength was always greater that my pre-aas days, albeit not quite to the level it was at my peak aas use.

In my experience, most people who claim they did a cycle of some sort and "gained 25lbs and kept 19lbs" are usually only 6-8 weeks post-cycle, during which they used long acting esters like nandrolone decanoate, test enanthate etc.

How much gains can be kept in the long term is a difficult question to answer because so many factors are involved besides bodyweight. For example, bodyfat % while on cycle and off, dedication to diet, dedication to training etc. etc.

Hope this helps,

Tholdren
 
I've been off for just over a year and haven't lost that much. I kept my intensity with my training and my diet is pretty strict....except for skittles.


Damn those skittles!
 
I've been off for 2.5 years and am still 20lbs heavier and significantly stronger than my pre-AAS days....I'm also holding a bit more BF than when before I started...so I would say that I have mantained about 10-15 solid pounds of lean mass...I started at 174lbs and peaked at 228lbs...all during my first cycle..5 weeks in I was 228...during the past couple years, I've trained hard but def. had my down periods....so in conclusion, although theres NO way you'll be as strong or as big as when you're on, yes..you can maintain a certain % of your gains....
 
JoNeS said:
I heard that once you stop using gear for an extended period of time, ie) 2 years, all of your gains become lost.

Not the size gains that you would have made naturally during the time you used, but only the gear related gains. Is this true?

Everyone I've ever known who has gone on has never come back......

Usually once someone who enjoys being on that much will never come off.

Often people will only bridge between heavy cycles and are truly never "OFF".

That's what I have seen.

DIV

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