BIGMIke007
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Just like the title says, lets have a showdown, paste your before and after pics, lets say they cant be more than a year apart. Ive got some to post if we have some interest, im not going to be the only one
BIGMIke007 said:It was mainly diet (ive always trained very hard- been training since 2000) and only 2 short little crappy cycles (5 weeks prop 100mgEOD(Nov06) and var 4 weeks 50mgED (Jan), just getting serious about my diet has made all the diffrence, still busy researching and learning about juice and planning my first wel thought out cycle for Nov 2007. Planning a EQ, Test, Tren 15 wk'er for end '07.
I train on a 4 day split:
Legs
Chest
Back + Bi's
Shoulder + Tri's
Then either take a day off or hit legs again - i go by how my body is feeling, not a set routine.
Always train bout 16-20 exercises (most to failure) and i consider 8 reps to be very high
Diet: Protein 400g, Carbs (only oats/wholewheat pasta) 350g, Fat: minimal 20g of flax/day and 5g of MCTs pre training.
He answers those questions in the thread.errn247 said:Holy shit. how far apart and what did you use?

Mac173 said:He answers those questions in the thread.
That seems too impressive for one yr.
Maybe I'm just jelous.![]()
That's one of the best things you can do for yourself right there.jagerbombme said:i sure am, that's my goal right there. that lean anyways. i started writing down everything i eat, calories, carbs, sugars, fats, protien. i started this yesterday first time ever. i see how one can think they are eating good but not be because you gotta add up the numbers. i am watching these numbers now and adjusting accordingly. i will get down to that. DAMNIT, i am far from that now though. probably 16-20 somewhere.
Mac173 said:He answers those questions in the thread.
That seems too impressive for one yr.
Maybe I'm just jelous.![]()
It happens.errn247 said:yea I noticed after i posted it. oops.
Diet looks good to me.BIGMIke007 said:Firstly, i started off writing down everything i was ingesting, but after a while i didnt need to anymore, i already know what im going to be eating tomorrow and the next day. The longer you eat "clean" the easier it gets, i cant even remember when last i had a little cheat, i just dont crave it anymore.
Yes 350g is allot sometimes it goes up to 450g - I must add that i do a hell of a lot of carido.
I try and make every meal 50g protein 50g carbs; except for my middle of the night shake, this "meal" is only 50g protein.
I feel my life changed when i bought a digital food scale, this enabled me to count and not guess ech meal's caloric equiv.
I normally train at 7am; here is my diet; please comment; i dont look like Jay Cutler so please give me some help too
6am - 100g oats + 60g whey protein + 5g Flax 5g MCTs
POST WORKOUT (08h30-09h00) - 100g oats + 60g Whey Protein
10h00 (one hour later) - 200g Chicken/tuna + 150g wholewhaet pasta (cooked)
12h30- 200g Chicken/tuna + 150g wholewhaet pasta (cooked)
13h00-200g Chicken/tuna + 150g wholewhaet pasta (cooked)
17h30-200g Chicken/tuna + 150g wholewhaet pasta (cooked)
18h00-20h00 - My sport training - this is my cardio
20h20- 250g Chicken / Ostrich fillet + 150g brown rice + Mixed Veggies
01h00- 60g Protein Bend (Whey, albumin, cassein) + 8g Flax
{Obviously there is non-caloric supplementation and vitamin intake i didnt include - i have to work as well}
Stats: i weigh 230 Pounds and im 6'1
I bench and squat (bum touch ankles squats - non sissy shit you see everyday at your gym) 400 Pounds and dead 500, i have been building the base for about 7 years, now im ready to take my physique to the next level.
Mac173 said:Diet looks good to me.
Not exactly sure of the gram to oz. conversion though.
How many cals is that?
BIGMIke007 said:I though you were down!!!
well I know you said only within 1 year, but this is what I have so far:
Feb 2006:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g201/william_rand/before.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g201/william_rand/before-back.jpg
June 2006 (after my winny only cycle):
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g201/william_rand/week22-5.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g201/william_rand/week20-4.jpg
I am currently on my 2nd cycle (test-e,winny,primo) and I am hoping to make a greater transformation this year.
Diet is clean, no need to get into specifics theres tons of advice on that, but "tons" of cardio like (30 mins on treadmill 7/week for 3-4 months).
william rand said:BIGMIke007 said:I though you were down!!!
well I know you said only within 1 year, but this is what I have so far:
Feb 2006:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g201/william_rand/before.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g201/william_rand/before-back.jpg
June 2006 (after my winny only cycle):
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g201/william_rand/week22-5.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g201/william_rand/week20-4.jpg
I am currently on my 2nd cycle (test-e,winny,primo) and I am hoping to make a greater transformation this year.
Diet is clean, no need to get into specifics theres tons of advice on that, but "tons" of cardio like (30 mins on treadmill 7/week for 3-4 months).
Good job bro.
It's good to see people making progress like that.
william rand said:I went from a 41inch waist down to 35inch waist (using measuring tape).
my goal this year is to go down to 33inch waist
Yours were too good, you scared the rest of us away.BIGMIke007 said:Any more guys got some pics for us?
dballed said:not over a year only 12 weeks, and a bit different than big mike and william rand, I was trying to put on weight not lose it
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BIGMIke007 said:The amount of hair you managed to grow in 12 weeks is impressive!!!!
lol omfg. I call BS. Two tell-tale signs that it is beyond 12 weeks:BIGMIke007 said:The amount of hair you managed to grow in 12 weeks is impressive!!!!
Not just chest, everywhere else that you don't want it.piningettysburg said:lol i was worried that was a side effect of the juice.. what's that saying? "it'll put hair on ur chest"?
i'm hairy enough as it is
16-20 exercises per BP or sets per BP? 16-20 exercises is crazy bro unless I misunderstood - can't really argue with your results though, nice jobBIGMIke007 said:It was mainly diet (ive always trained very hard- been training since 2000) and only 2 short little crappy cycles (5 weeks prop 100mgEOD(Nov06) and var 4 weeks 50mgED (Jan), just getting serious about my diet has made all the diffrence, still busy researching and learning about juice and planning my first wel thought out cycle for Nov 2007. Planning a EQ, Test, Tren 15 wk'er for end '07.
I train on a 4 day split:
Legs
Chest
Back + Bi's
Shoulder + Tri's
Then either take a day off or hit legs again - i go by how my body is feeling, not a set routine.
Always train bout 16-20 exercises (most to failure) and i consider 8 reps to be very high
Diet: Protein 400g, Carbs (only oats/wholewheat pasta) 350g, Fat: minimal 20g of flax/day and 5g of MCTs pre training.
bluetwistedsteel67 said:16-20 exercises per BP or sets per BP? 16-20 exercises is crazy bro unless I misunderstood - can't really argue with your results though, nice job
stewfoo said:lol omfg. I call BS. Two tell-tale signs that it is beyond 12 weeks:
a.) Ridiculously fast hair growth
b.) Very pronounced I.L.S. It could not develop so quickly!
Imaginary Lat Syndromemattrich said:whats I.L.S?
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