Anyone here do bloodwork on SARM 4?

[mikevegas]

Keep reading it is suppressive, it isn't suppressive.... Anyone have official results to prove this either way?

 

[needtogetarmy]

Yes. It was suppressive for me.

It did not have any effect on my liver, kidneys or any other portion of my blood panel.

 

[mikevegas]

To the point of recommending like running a standard PCT protocol when coming off would you say? What dose did you run please?

 

[Gamer2Be08]

Another member on here got BW done and concluded it wasnt suppressive.. For him at least.

 

[needtogetarmy]

To the point of recommending like running a standard PCT protocol when coming off would you say? What dose did you run please?

50mg ED split into two doses. One in the morning with breakfast and one in the evening.

I would never use it for PCT. The whole purpose of PCT is to get the system totally clean and get your natty T rebounded. HCG, clomid, and a few supplements is all I use. It works and I have the bloodwork to prove it.


I am a freak when it comes to bloodwork. I get it done before and after every cycle. And I have two physicals every year so I know where I am at.

 

[Gamer2Be08]

50mg ED split into two doses. One in the morning with breakfast and one in the evening.

I would never use it for PCT. The whole purpose of PCT is to get the system totally clean and get your natty T rebounded. HCG, clomid, and a few supplements is all I use. It works and I have the bloodwork to prove it.


I am a freak when it comes to bloodwork. I get it done before and after every cycle. And I have two physicals every year so I know where I am at.

Well see, you dosed at 100mg...
There shouldnt be much if any suppression at 50mg.

 

[mikevegas]

What I meant ARMY was, was it suppressive enough to warrant needing a PCT when coming off the SARM? Didn't mean using it on PCT.

Gamer he said 50 mg a day, not 100. He's doing same as I just did 50 split into two 25 doses.

 

[needtogetarmy]

Well see, you dosed at 100mg...
There shouldnt be much if any suppression at 50mg.

No. 50mg split into two doses is 25mg each dose (sorry for the confusion).

Plus, if it wasn't suppressive then it wouldn't matter if I too 50mg or 100mg.

 

[needtogetarmy]

What I meant ARMY was, was it suppressive enough to warrant needing a PCT when coming off the SARM? Didn't mean using it on PCT.

Gamer he said 50 mg a day, not 100. He's doing same as I just did 50 split into two 25 doses.

IMO it has a very short half life. Blood results can come in as quick as 2-3 days.

My recommendation is to get blood work the day or two after the last dose, then run a PCT if needed.

I ran a PCT afterwards. My test levels were way below the normal range. I ran clomid 50mg for three weeks.

 

[mikevegas]

Got it bro, thanks for the info.

 

[Gamer2Be08]

No. 50mg split into two doses is 25mg each dose (sorry for the confusion).

Plus, if it wasn't suppressive then it wouldn't matter if I too 50mg or 100mg.

Hmmm, doesnt sound too smart to use in PCT...
Good thing I start mine a week after PCT.. LMAO..
Then im gonna need to PCT again I guess..

 

[mikevegas]

Hmmm, doesnt sound too smart to use in PCT...
Good thing I start mine a week after PCT.. LMAO..
Then im gonna need to PCT again I guess..

That's funny, I started one day after PCT! Welcome PCT part 2.

 

[SouthernLord]

Hmmm, doesnt sound too smart to use in PCT...
Good thing I start mine a week after PCT.. LMAO..
Then im gonna need to PCT again I guess..

I would personally give it a little while before running the sarms. Let yourself fully recover.

 

[truckdaddy]

its been used in many PCTs.....

Its NOT suppressive at a low dose and hardly suppressive id any at higher doses. No pct needed with s4.

 

[jacshelb]

I wish I could comment on bloodwork, but I haven't gotten any. I've used s4 for 4 pcts now and then straight into a cycle after. I've always "felt" that I've sufficiently recovered- libido, strength, energy etc. In other words, all the stuff I experience in a normal pct (the dip in libido/energy and then the return to normal) and along the same time frame seemed the same when using s4. But, not everyone has the same experience.