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smallmovesal
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get a cable release... buy a second hand tripod that's sturdy and light and folds fairly small. get a pentax k1000!! that is the best camera but they're hard to find... i found a great one for 200 cad.
what do you need them for? what kind of photography are you doing?
what do you need them for? what kind of photography are you doing?
smallmovesal
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ok the stuff i suggested would work then... forget the cable release.
k1000 are good because they're sturdier than new plastic cams in case you drop them... everyone told me to find one and i'm so glad i bought it... you might not really want or need a tripod if it's lots of action photos
k1000 are good because they're sturdier than new plastic cams in case you drop them... everyone told me to find one and i'm so glad i bought it... you might not really want or need a tripod if it's lots of action photos
MasterMind
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Take Smalls Advice
Hey bro...listen to smalls...she knows her shit here lol.....i am currently in photo class...beginners sadly....and she seems to know more then the teacher about cameras.....does that seem strange to anyone else?
Hey bro...listen to smalls...she knows her shit here lol.....i am currently in photo class...beginners sadly....and she seems to know more then the teacher about cameras.....does that seem strange to anyone else?
smallmovesal
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how could i know more than your prof? i just said they're sturdy is all...
smallmovesal
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cheap
i bought mine for 200 CAD
i bought mine for 200 CAD
I have a Canon Rebel XS (first camera about 6 years old since I bought it used) and an Elan IIe. I use a combination of Tamron lens, (the best in my opinion) and Sigma lens.)
Get a tripod, the cable release is very cheap, a couple of cheap filters, etc..
Ask Jae, that dude actually wins national photo shows. He has several books in the works right now. Very sharp photos...
Get a tripod, the cable release is very cheap, a couple of cheap filters, etc..
Ask Jae, that dude actually wins national photo shows. He has several books in the works right now. Very sharp photos...
THeMaCHinE
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I shot professionally for five years; maintain it on a creative level (i.e. personal) to this day.
If you're just getting started out in classes, your instructor will provide you a list of basic supplies needed.
How much money do you have budgeted? If you're sure that you like photography, I'd probably pony up a little more money and get a more modern camera. My first "real" camera was a Canon EOS Elan -- I still have it to this day as a backup (my main 35mm is an A1). K1000 are fine and cheap, but I like the feel, precision, ease-of-use and abilities of more modern cameras. I'm a Canon guy, but Nikon is OK too. For your first lens, get a zoom lens. A 28-80 will fit almost all of your needs. You can probably buy a "kit" that includes camera body and lens. A good entry-level Canon would be one from their Rebel line, if you can spend a few more dollars, get one from their Elan line. Buy used from a local dealer if possible. Buy new from a wholesaler.
Get a lightweight tripod w/ quick-release plate and screw-down, not snap, stops.
Get a good external flash matched to your camera. Get a second cheap external flash for fill light applications.
Get a second mini-tripod and slave for your flash (for off-camera applications).
Get a cable or infra-red (if applicable) remote. (for lengthy exposures)
But really, equipment just helps. Solid knowledge of exposure, composition and lighting is what makes the photographer. I'd look into some entry-level photography seminars prior to going to class. Over the years, seminars have provided invaluable information for me.
If you're just getting started out in classes, your instructor will provide you a list of basic supplies needed.
How much money do you have budgeted? If you're sure that you like photography, I'd probably pony up a little more money and get a more modern camera. My first "real" camera was a Canon EOS Elan -- I still have it to this day as a backup (my main 35mm is an A1). K1000 are fine and cheap, but I like the feel, precision, ease-of-use and abilities of more modern cameras. I'm a Canon guy, but Nikon is OK too. For your first lens, get a zoom lens. A 28-80 will fit almost all of your needs. You can probably buy a "kit" that includes camera body and lens. A good entry-level Canon would be one from their Rebel line, if you can spend a few more dollars, get one from their Elan line. Buy used from a local dealer if possible. Buy new from a wholesaler.
Get a lightweight tripod w/ quick-release plate and screw-down, not snap, stops.
Get a good external flash matched to your camera. Get a second cheap external flash for fill light applications.
Get a second mini-tripod and slave for your flash (for off-camera applications).
Get a cable or infra-red (if applicable) remote. (for lengthy exposures)
But really, equipment just helps. Solid knowledge of exposure, composition and lighting is what makes the photographer. I'd look into some entry-level photography seminars prior to going to class. Over the years, seminars have provided invaluable information for me.
THeMaCHinE
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Anal AssPlorer said:
Tamron and Sigma are good for the money. I don't think they are better than the Canon F lenses that are made specifically for Canon cameras. They're certainly not better than L lenses (very pricey).
Filters are OK for creative photography class, but use them as sparingly as possible (once the initial novelty wears off). Remeber that your putting a 30-40 piece of glass over a 600 dollar lens. Optic quality degrades fast; plus you lose light.
AA -- I had NO idea Jae was a photographer -- very cool! Here I've been talking to him all of this time and had no clue... funny!
THeMaCHinE
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Cleaner said:
I can relate. Although I never did weddings (ugh!) except for specialty photography (i.e. b&w, hand-painting), there is a lot of stress. That's part of why I got out of it. I also felt like I was losing my artistic vision. I did mostly corporate, industrial and on-location photography.
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Warik
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Re: Take Smalls Advice
Absolutely not... if the teacher knew anything about cameras, she'd be a studio photographer or photojournalist or something like that instead of being a teacher.
Kind of like my Technical Writing teacher.... if he were such a good writer, he'd be writing for newspapers or magazines instead of spewing his bullshit every Tuesday and Thursday. This guy took off 5 points from my last paper because he didn't like my topic. What the fuck? I thought we were being graded on content.
-Warik
MasterMind said:
Absolutely not... if the teacher knew anything about cameras, she'd be a studio photographer or photojournalist or something like that instead of being a teacher.
Kind of like my Technical Writing teacher.... if he were such a good writer, he'd be writing for newspapers or magazines instead of spewing his bullshit every Tuesday and Thursday. This guy took off 5 points from my last paper because he didn't like my topic. What the fuck? I thought we were being graded on content.
-Warik
THeMaCHinE
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Re: Re: Take Smalls Advice
That's not necessarily true Warik. In some cases, people have put their time in and want a change of pace.
Warik said:
That's not necessarily true Warik. In some cases, people have put their time in and want a change of pace.
THeMaCHinE
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A filter is a piece of glass (sometimes plastic) that can be housed over the lens to change the properties of what the camera sees.
Yes, I made great money at it. It's a rough business though.
Yes, I made great money at it. It's a rough business though.
Cleaner said:
Yup, I photo'ed weddings for 2 years.....UGH!
It ruined the job for me.
I started it as a way to pay for a hobby and
you know the old saying.
Once you start getting paid for it
It becomes a job.
Totally true in this case, I can't even look
thru a viewfinder anymore.
Although the G.F. and I had the polaroid out
last night.....
For awhile I was gonna get on with the IP or AP.
That looked cool. Then the travel thing hit the fan with the girl.
Then I did some work that noticed by national geographic.
That would have been the gig.......I'm a landscape person....I see things other people don't. Anyway try telling your girl that you'll be gone for six weeks.
Then I worked in a lab for a while....do you know how fukked up it can be trying to make someones shitty snap shot look good enlarged........can be total bullshit.
Then I had some talks with the local paper.....talk about bullshit assignments.
The one I wanted.........Sport Ill.......talkin about travel again. They also didn't pay all that well.
So my photo minor was good for me.
I did some marketing work with it and took a large portion of the photo for web page and flyers.
All in all it was gift given to me by my grandfather who did it in his retirement and the time with him was worth a million.
Just to show you how fukked up the art is name 10 photographers. I bet you can't do it.
That looked cool. Then the travel thing hit the fan with the girl.
Then I did some work that noticed by national geographic.
That would have been the gig.......I'm a landscape person....I see things other people don't. Anyway try telling your girl that you'll be gone for six weeks.
Then I worked in a lab for a while....do you know how fukked up it can be trying to make someones shitty snap shot look good enlarged........can be total bullshit.
Then I had some talks with the local paper.....talk about bullshit assignments.
The one I wanted.........Sport Ill.......talkin about travel again. They also didn't pay all that well.
So my photo minor was good for me.
I did some marketing work with it and took a large portion of the photo for web page and flyers.
All in all it was gift given to me by my grandfather who did it in his retirement and the time with him was worth a million.
Just to show you how fukked up the art is name 10 photographers. I bet you can't do it.
I have a bunch on this board.....
Maybe I'll post my trip pics.
Let me think about it.
What I was trying to get across is work is out there.....its just you have to be ready to live an alternative life style. I've been with my girl since 18....and wasn't ready and didn't want to be apart that much.
Maybe I'll post my trip pics.
Let me think about it.
What I was trying to get across is work is out there.....its just you have to be ready to live an alternative life style. I've been with my girl since 18....and wasn't ready and didn't want to be apart that much.
First you need to check out some photography books at the library. Then take 10,000 photos of different types of subjects to see what you like and are good at. Show your best work to people and find if you have the talent. If you want to grow pro...you should use Nikon or Canon if 35MM is your choice. Mamiya's RZ Pro 6x7 medium format camera will give you awesome mondo enlargements. Have your film developed at a cheap place while getting experience. Its the technician and the machine, not the lab. I got my worst results from the most prestigous lab. Its hard to switch camera brands after a while so start with Nikon or Canon. I switched from Canon to Nikon after 4 years and I still have to think when adjusting the Nikon. Sigma lenses are the best value in my opinion. You will spend a bloody fortune in equipment and most photographers do not make good money. It is not easy...everyone wants to be a photographer. It is the #1 hobby in the world.
This is my suggestion. I shoot sporting events and airshows along with portrait.
I use three cameras:
Canon A1 program
Canon ElanIIE
Canon EOS1NRS
I use the following lenses:
600mm FD F4.5
300mm FD F2.8
300mm FD F4.0
50mm Macor FD
50mm FD F1.2
100-400mm EF, IS F4.5
300mm EF F4.0
100mm macro EF F2.8
28-105mm F3.5
I shoot black and white and color
use different filters for different effects.
I would get a heavy tripod. (it is more stable and will dampen out the vibrations better) Get a heavy monopod (for the heavy telephoto lenses)
Flash that is made for the camera
Stay away from Tamaron, Sigma (unless that is all you can afford)
All of my lenses are Canon. I would suggest using an ElanIIE or the Canon A1 program.
For starting out I would chose a good 50mm and a good zoom. The 28-105 is a good begining zoom. and doesn't cost that much.
The ElanIIE is eye-controlled focus, a really nifty feature. It shoots up to 3.5 frames a second at 1/4000 second shutter speed. The EF lenses will interchange with any Canon camera that is currently produced. The A1 is manual focus, but auto everything else. It is 1/1000 second. The advantage to that camera is it is highly durable and you can get Canon pro lenses for it much more cheaply than the EF lenses.
Example the Canon 600mm FD cost me 1900$ It is a professional lense used for sports and such. The same lense except with auto focus and image stabilizer (really cool feature) currently is running 10,000 dollars. I am sure it is well worth it, but most of us don't have 10K just lying around. (someday I will have that lense)
Next, what type of photography are you wanting to shoot.
Important as to direct you in the right direction.
To me Canon is the best hands down.
Email me if you want further info.
I use three cameras:
Canon A1 program
Canon ElanIIE
Canon EOS1NRS
I use the following lenses:
600mm FD F4.5
300mm FD F2.8
300mm FD F4.0
50mm Macor FD
50mm FD F1.2
100-400mm EF, IS F4.5
300mm EF F4.0
100mm macro EF F2.8
28-105mm F3.5
I shoot black and white and color
use different filters for different effects.
I would get a heavy tripod. (it is more stable and will dampen out the vibrations better) Get a heavy monopod (for the heavy telephoto lenses)
Flash that is made for the camera
Stay away from Tamaron, Sigma (unless that is all you can afford)
All of my lenses are Canon. I would suggest using an ElanIIE or the Canon A1 program.
For starting out I would chose a good 50mm and a good zoom. The 28-105 is a good begining zoom. and doesn't cost that much.
The ElanIIE is eye-controlled focus, a really nifty feature. It shoots up to 3.5 frames a second at 1/4000 second shutter speed. The EF lenses will interchange with any Canon camera that is currently produced. The A1 is manual focus, but auto everything else. It is 1/1000 second. The advantage to that camera is it is highly durable and you can get Canon pro lenses for it much more cheaply than the EF lenses.
Example the Canon 600mm FD cost me 1900$ It is a professional lense used for sports and such. The same lense except with auto focus and image stabilizer (really cool feature) currently is running 10,000 dollars. I am sure it is well worth it, but most of us don't have 10K just lying around. (someday I will have that lense)
Next, what type of photography are you wanting to shoot.
Important as to direct you in the right direction.
To me Canon is the best hands down.
Email me if you want further info.
smallmovesal
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as i say, photographers i know say the pentax k1000 is also a great camera... but i have less camera experience than the people above me so i'll just butt out now 
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dballer
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yeah...ask GARZA, he took some nice shots of himself tonight!!!!
