any omnadren 250 users in here?

[IronFist]

Madmachine, I have to comend you on your effort, but I heard awhile back that the new omna's are the same as the sust. You would have to check with Ret. or Vovan.

 

[bigpimp]

i am doing an omna/dbol cycle now...i'm in my 4 week and up 25 pounds....the first two weeks i injected 1 cc ED and now i am doing EOD...with 60-70mg dbol ED....the shit is working great....very little sides and really no bloating

 

[MadMachine]

Actually, IronFist, that information came from cross referencing the ester names in a medical encyclopedia. The Omnadren information I obtained from a newly manufactured box (pink box), and compared it to an older box (from about 3 years ago). Many people have thought they were the exact same product, and in all honesty, I can't blame them. The esters changed, so everyone figured that they were similar, but a little research reveals this not to be the case. Now then, prehaps I am mistaken and the formula has been changed since 2000. But the original change to the form that everyone THOUGHT made Omnadren the same as Sustanon occured I beleive in 96 or 97. Generally speaking, not even the sources know there is a diference, because if your told something by enough people...you tend to beleive it. Can't blame them, if I have 100 people from dif. boards telling me the same thing, I'd beleive it too. However, crack open a book and you will find the diference... *UNLESS* the formula has changed since 00...but I doubt that.

MM

 

[lawnsaver]

Omnas are exactly the same as Sus, sos, poly, etc.

 

[MadMachine]

Omnas are exactly the same as Sus, sos, poly, etc.

not that I doubt you, but what do you base that on? I hope it's not the ester names, because I've already covered that.

Teach me.... seriously, maybe I am wrong?

 

[vovan]

I have posted this before, will post it again...

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No, they are not [the same], that is the very common misconception. Here is what the total breakdown is:

Sustanon '250'
30 mgs propinate
60 mgs phenylpropinate
60 mgs isocaproate
100 mgs decanoate
250mgs per mL, single glass ampule, common.

New Omnadren
30 mgs propinate
60 mgs phenylpropinate
60 mgs isocaproate
100 mgs caproate
250mgs per mL, single glass ampule, common.
Paper label ampule, currently has black ink.

Hopefully that will clear up any misconceptions.
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Search for omnadren 250 results, it has 14 replies. That is where I originally posted this.

caproate is actually a shorter ester than enanthate
-That means a shorter release time-
Enanthate is much shorter then deconate
-That means a shorter release time-

*So if caproate is short (faster acting) than enanthate, which is shorter (Faster acting) than deconate... why are people still saying they are the same?

well, you're wrong! chemically speaking "decanoate" = "caproate" (caprinicum)

 

[MadMachine]

Well I'm glad somebody knows more than the writters of the 1999 Medical Economics Encyclopedia of Medical Terms...I guess they should become better educated.

Just curious, Anabolics 2000, and WAR both confirmed this, are they wrong as well?

 

[MadMachine]

well, you're wrong! chemically speaking "decanoate" = "caproate" (caprinicum)

Oops...

Just checked into the ester chains Hexanoate, Caproate, and Deconoate .....

This information is coming from the 1999 Medical Economics Encyclopedia of Medical Terms...

Hexanoate is another word for Caproate, and vice versa, so I would assume as they gave both Haxanoate and Caproate the EXACT same definition.

Deconate is a completely different ester chain.

They placed it's half life at 8 days in both cases. They placed the half life of Deconate at 21 days.

I'll see if I can find similar information on a website so that everyone can read for themselves. Something tells me this is going to turn into a flame war basicly coming down to "How dare I say something somethingnot in accordance to what the vets say." All I'm asking is that before you flame my ass to hell that you make an effort to look it up for yourselves...

I mean no harm, just interested in the truth, with nothing to gain fanacially from it's true half life, whatever it may be.
MM

 

[vovan]

hmmmm... I can't get my head working right now I'm not a chemist. I'll check all the facts and post tomorrow...

 

[xbomber]

same as sust but a little bit more harsh to the bordy