Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I spent ten years in the military (a long time ago) but back then piss tests were common place. I am sure they are now also, in fact probably more so now then when I was in. What I want to know is are they're any military people or cops or anyone with similiar jobs who are juicing and still passing drug (piss) tests. I am trying to find out for sure if your basic (looking for drug use) urine test is a different test than one specifically looking for steriod use. I have heard a lot of speculation on this subject so not trying to offend anyone but I would prefer hearing from people who know first hand. I am subject to urine tests at work but I am sure that the last thing on their mind is steriods. They are looking for crack heads and pot heads and other street drug users. Which BTW I qualified for many years ago, but then thats another story. Thanks to anyone that can help me out.
Any Military Out There?
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they can test you for it if they think you are using!
Otherwise NO! The cost is too much to have one of these tests done, simple as that! This does not mean you are not subject to it? This is a ................. if! I am also in law enforcement and in the military........ both are the same!
Reason's to get tested:
1. Someone has it out for you!
2. Showing abnormal aggressive behavior that affects your work performance and relationship towards co-workers.
3. Have been found with it on you or around you.
If you fall under # 2 or #3 you deserve to get caught!
Do they test for it for no reason............................NO!
they can test you for it if they think you are using!
Otherwise NO! The cost is too much to have one of these tests done, simple as that! This does not mean you are not subject to it? This is a ................. if! I am also in law enforcement and in the military........ both are the same!
Reason's to get tested:
1. Someone has it out for you!
2. Showing abnormal aggressive behavior that affects your work performance and relationship towards co-workers.
3. Have been found with it on you or around you.
If you fall under # 2 or #3 you deserve to get caught!
Do they test for it for no reason............................NO!
While in the military I was charged with possesion and distro of Dianabol. Based off the heresay of one private who hates me and got caught with all kinds of drugs plus getting chaptered out. I was recommended for a field grade. even after the fact that CID tore my vehicle and room apart. and came out fine on the polygraph. All they found was one piece of paper with equipoise written on it. CID was pumped about finding that
Of course they didin't bother to take the Muscular Development Mag that I took the name out of. So now here I am with my packet going before the SFC board shortly. Just came off almost ten years in the spec ops community and this is my first expericence in a shit unit.
Luckily my legal counsel was an officer who was prior enlisetd in the same spec ops unit I had been in. He told me not to even worry about a piss test cause it wouldn't happen. the prosecutor even recommended to my Battalion Commander to drop the case. My legal told me that the only way they could get me is if I got caught red-handed or confessed. Neither happend eventhough I was drilled for over 2 hours.
If any of you have ever been to SERE (survival school for you civi's LOL) it was just like that. they had a soft cell and hard cell approach and the training came in hany.
Now this all happend so fast. the charges were formerly read on a MON. didn't see Legal til Wed. Wed night I was given unitl friday afternoon to present evidence on my behalf. How about that for fairness. so little time all because they wanted to start the restrictive duty roster before we went on leave (vacation)
I went before my battalion Commander that friday making him fully aware that I would opt for a court-maritial because I din't want to leave my fate in the hands of one man who had already recommended the max punishment based off of heresay. If fouldn guilty I would have been reduced to E-5, loss of 1/2 months base pay 45 days restrictive duty and chaptered because of the new zero tolerance policy.
Eventhough I was nervous as hell i walked in pumped literally. 5'8" 235 and lean. By the time it was over the BC apologezed along with the Company Commander. Who by the way never let my 1SG no what was going on. Fuckin officers. Not all of them but you know who you are.
Then they acted like they where my buddies and knew I was innocent. Top it off they gave me the opportunity to go to another unit on post to protect my rep. I even got an extra week of leave. Thought it was going good. Evryone I knew was happy as hell. I even had an E-8 and E-9 willing to fly in to be character witnesses if I went to a court-martial. Hell the previous Batallion Commander who brought me into this unit was going to teleconference in from his new unit.
Always a good idea to bust your ass when performing your duty because you'll never know when you need a helping hand.
The military is getting a lot smaller and it's easier to rememnber somebody.
Well the man who had looked out for me is on his way out of the unit. So as reward I get this bullshit job of Staff duty for 6 months straight. 24 hours on and 2 days off. Fuckers. couldn't get me through legal channels so they have to try another way. Yeah I'm recoevering from an injury but it's still bullshit IMO. Oh well I just use the opportunity to knock out some college courses and getting friggin huge.
The ironic part is last year I caught a dirtbag 2nd. LT putting a rifle in his own vehicle to get it back to the unit. I ripped into his ass in front of everybody and his PSG was happy because he knew he could finally get rid of this jackass. Of course being an officer no formal paper work was done and all they did was keep it quiet and move him to another comapny. Go figure.
I have 1 1/2 years before I ETS. and I think I will have to take a break for a few year. BTW if anybody want to give me karma for making my way through that situation feel free.
Of course they didin't bother to take the Muscular Development Mag that I took the name out of. So now here I am with my packet going before the SFC board shortly. Just came off almost ten years in the spec ops community and this is my first expericence in a shit unit.
Luckily my legal counsel was an officer who was prior enlisetd in the same spec ops unit I had been in. He told me not to even worry about a piss test cause it wouldn't happen. the prosecutor even recommended to my Battalion Commander to drop the case. My legal told me that the only way they could get me is if I got caught red-handed or confessed. Neither happend eventhough I was drilled for over 2 hours.
If any of you have ever been to SERE (survival school for you civi's LOL) it was just like that. they had a soft cell and hard cell approach and the training came in hany.
Now this all happend so fast. the charges were formerly read on a MON. didn't see Legal til Wed. Wed night I was given unitl friday afternoon to present evidence on my behalf. How about that for fairness. so little time all because they wanted to start the restrictive duty roster before we went on leave (vacation)
I went before my battalion Commander that friday making him fully aware that I would opt for a court-maritial because I din't want to leave my fate in the hands of one man who had already recommended the max punishment based off of heresay. If fouldn guilty I would have been reduced to E-5, loss of 1/2 months base pay 45 days restrictive duty and chaptered because of the new zero tolerance policy.
Eventhough I was nervous as hell i walked in pumped literally. 5'8" 235 and lean. By the time it was over the BC apologezed along with the Company Commander. Who by the way never let my 1SG no what was going on. Fuckin officers. Not all of them but you know who you are.
Then they acted like they where my buddies and knew I was innocent. Top it off they gave me the opportunity to go to another unit on post to protect my rep. I even got an extra week of leave. Thought it was going good. Evryone I knew was happy as hell. I even had an E-8 and E-9 willing to fly in to be character witnesses if I went to a court-martial. Hell the previous Batallion Commander who brought me into this unit was going to teleconference in from his new unit.
Always a good idea to bust your ass when performing your duty because you'll never know when you need a helping hand.
The military is getting a lot smaller and it's easier to rememnber somebody.
Well the man who had looked out for me is on his way out of the unit. So as reward I get this bullshit job of Staff duty for 6 months straight. 24 hours on and 2 days off. Fuckers. couldn't get me through legal channels so they have to try another way. Yeah I'm recoevering from an injury but it's still bullshit IMO. Oh well I just use the opportunity to knock out some college courses and getting friggin huge.
The ironic part is last year I caught a dirtbag 2nd. LT putting a rifle in his own vehicle to get it back to the unit. I ripped into his ass in front of everybody and his PSG was happy because he knew he could finally get rid of this jackass. Of course being an officer no formal paper work was done and all they did was keep it quiet and move him to another comapny. Go figure.
I have 1 1/2 years before I ETS. and I think I will have to take a break for a few year. BTW if anybody want to give me karma for making my way through that situation feel free.
ohh rah
I commend you man, I think the use of roids should be given to you especially Marines we do the most fucked up things getting out in a year and 1/2 and I'm juicing right now I don't see the big idea why the military doesn't like it, I have been put on the spot light many times over but never had enough evidence to prove shit, don't worry about civi tests man all they test for is the narcotics and weed smoking fuckers I woulden't worry about besides most places don't even have the money to test for steroids.
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fit4lfe
I commend you man, I think the use of roids should be given to you especially Marines we do the most fucked up things getting out in a year and 1/2 and I'm juicing right now I don't see the big idea why the military doesn't like it, I have been put on the spot light many times over but never had enough evidence to prove shit, don't worry about civi tests man all they test for is the narcotics and weed smoking fuckers I woulden't worry about besides most places don't even have the money to test for steroids.
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