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any body know the Magic Solution in fina??

USP grade Benzyl Alcohol with a smidgen of benzyl benzoate is what I have been told. I buy the A kit with everything already included.
 
dude

ANCIENT CHINESE SECRET... He has stated in message that is is "secret" and he has noooo intentions of revealing whats in it, thats his right, maybe leave it at that. Just be comforted to know that it serves it purpose weeelll. (how do we know... well lets just say a million cows can't be wrong. Iknow the beef in my area is definitely leaner without blemish or abscess.:D
 
Good god dude. NO!

You crush the pellets, put them in an inch or so of Acetone and let them dissolve. Then you filter the binders/fillers out with a couple coffe filters and let it sit.

After a few days, the Acetone will completely evaporate and you'll be left with just the tren. From there, you can do with it what you want....Finasol, make into sterile solution, whatever.....

No, you don't inject paint remover into yourself....good god!

Sorry, I forgot to take into account the newbie factor when I made that post!!!!!!
 
Axxis said:
Good god dude. NO!

You crush the pellets, put them in an inch or so of Acetone and let them dissolve. Then you filter the binders/fillers out with a couple coffe filters and let it sit.

After a few days, the Acetone will completely evaporate and you'll be left with just the tren. From there, you can do with it what you want....Finasol, make into sterile solution, whatever.....

No, you don't inject paint remover into yourself....good god!

Sorry, I forgot to take into account the newbie factor when I made that post!!!!!!

sorryy myself, also I am not quite a newbie, working the 5th cycle currently, and have been training since '92. I use "kits" for my fina needs, but as far as finasol every cow I know just crushes the pellets,
adds them straight to the 99.9% alchohol in the androsol bottle. they cut a 1/4 " away from the
bottom of tube to reduce clogging.
 
magic solution

There's absolutely nothing magic about it. But what you are doing is also not so magic. I mean there's a lot to remove next to the tren.ac. For this reason you need your magic solution. The problem is that what you get is not just tren.ac. but tren. ac. with dirt. To remove a solution from a cristalline stuff in this case tren.ac. we normally use a high power vacuum pump. And what you guys are doing is letting it stay over a few days. So what I want to say is that with your magic solution and your way to it you get a product I wouldn't inject in my body. By the way can anyone tell me how many tren.ac. he gets from a certain amount of pellets.
 
Actually, I know that a lot of people ask this question, but I'm VERY interested to know this...

Most people ask it because they want to save some money (which is kinda stupid not to just spend the $25).

I can get Testosterone phenyl-propionate in 100mg/mL strength CHEAP (100ml, around $200!), and have always wanted to make a Testosterone phenyl-propionate and Fina mix. However, I just don't need the oil or vials that come in the kit...

Think about it, 100mgs of Testosterone phenyl-propionate and 100mgs of fina per mL!!! That would be a great thing!!! Inject 1cc a day, or reduce the fina dosage to 50mgs/mL and inject 2 cc's and damn!!! I'm getting excited just thinking about doing it!
 
MadMachine said:
Actually, I know that a lot of people ask this question, but I'm VERY interested to know this...

Most people ask it because they want to save some money (which is kinda stupid not to just spend the $25).

I can get Testosterone phenyl-propionate in 100mg/mL strength CHEAP (100ml, around $200!), and have always wanted to make a Testosterone phenyl-propionate and Fina mix. However, I just don't need the oil or vials that come in the kit...

Think about it, 100mgs of Testosterone phenyl-propionate and 100mgs of fina per mL!!! That would be a great thing!!! Inject 1cc a day, or reduce the fina dosage to 50mgs/mL and inject 2 cc's and damn!!! I'm getting excited just thinking about doing it!

The maker of the KITS is a Chemist and a great one at that , everything in his MAGIC solution, kits, and or accessories is calculated, researched and for a reason, on that note if you arent qualified.....lets just say hey its your health dude.
 
brama said:


The maker of the KITS is a Chemist and a great one at that , everything in his MAGIC solution, kits, and or accessories is calculated, researched and for a reason, on that note if you arent qualified.....lets just say hey its your health dude.

Well - he as a good chemist, but that is NOT his profession. He is an Ed major and teaches PE.


The Acetone method will work very nicely, assuming you have access to 5 9's Acetone.
 
europe, its obvious from your comments that you have never done a conversion yourself, at least not with an A kit. The final product is almost 100% of the tren you put in and very little of the filler and such. After all, the pellets themselves are injected into a cow and ya dont see the cow dieing cause of it. The fillers and what not are basically harmless, but removed nonetheless.
 
Cornholio said:


The Acetone method will work very nicely, assuming you have access to 5 9's Acetone.

Never heard of acetone at 5' 9s purity. The purist form I've seen is used for spectrophotometry, which is a test that is not tolerant of impurities. This grade is listed at 99.9 with a residue after evaporation of 1mg/L ( .01mg/10ml ) . I suspect that your girlfirend absorbs a hell of alot more acetone than that just doing her nails. I've used this grade with fina and have been very happy with the results. next month I'll be using it to extract test undeconate from andriol caps and mixing with sunflower oil to obtain a final product at 200mg/ml. Will post results.

peace,

Hard,
 
hard said:


Never heard of acetone at 5' 9s purity. The purist form I've seen is used for spectrophotometry, which is a test that is not tolerant of impurities. This grade is listed at 99.9 with a residue after evaporation of 1mg/L ( .01mg/10ml ) . I suspect that your girlfirend absorbs a hell of alot more acetone than that just doing her nails. I've used this grade with fina and have been very happy with the results. next month I'll be using it to extract test undeconate from andriol caps and mixing with sunflower oil to obtain a final product at 200mg/ml. Will post results.

peace,

Hard,


Being a chemist - I have access to Fisher-Brand Ultra grade solvents.

I had GREAT success using this procedeure.

What are you trying to separate from the Test Undec. caps?? Filler??
 
Cornholio said:



Being a chemist - I have access to Fisher-Brand Ultra grade solvents.

I had GREAT success using this procedeure.

What are you trying to separate from the Test Undec. caps?? Filler??

The acetone is used to wash the residual test from the inside of the caps - I figure thats gotta be worth an extra 10% in final product as opposed to just pouring them out. Any idea on 1/2 life of undeconate done IM.?


Hard
 
Cool...

hard said:


The acetone is used to wash the residual test from the inside of the caps - I figure thats gotta be worth an extra 10% in final product as opposed to just pouring them out. Any idea on 1/2 life of undeconate done IM.?


Hard

I could be wrong, but I seem to remember Duchaine giving an interview where he talked about kitchen chemistry. I think he mentioned making Andriol into an injectable and suggested a dosing schedule of 36-48 hours as opposed to every 4-6.
 
brama said:


The maker of the KITS is a Chemist and a great one at that , everything in his MAGIC solution, kits, and or accessories is calculated, researched and for a reason, on that note if you arent qualified.....lets just say hey its your health dude.

Animal, the chemist?? Bwahahahahahahah
 
yes, zyglamail I have never used a fina kit. If I would extract tren.ac. from those pellets I would only use laboratory conditions and lab. ware. But I don't offend any people doing it. I just said that I wouldn't inject it in my body. By the way the cows are treated for slaughtering after and I hope you are not.
 
Thats fine europe, each to thier own bro. However, even though kits in general arent the most sterile method, I have had some nasty shit insode my body, rusty nails, huge chunks of glass, all sorts of dirt in deep wounds etc etc. In addition, how sterile is some of this "undergoround lab" stuff people pay top dollar for. For me, it may not be 100% sterile, but at least I did it and know what the conditions were. Also, in all honesty, I have seen very few if any probs from A kits that could actually be contributed to the conversion chemicals or process itself.
 
hard said:


The acetone is used to wash the residual test from the inside of the caps - I figure thats gotta be worth an extra 10% in final product as opposed to just pouring them out. Any idea on 1/2 life of undeconate done IM.?


Hard

Test. Undecanoate is a vey long ester.

Its half-life is roughly the same(actually a tad more)
than Test. Decanoate(Found in Sustanon).

Please keep us poted on your attempt to
produce inj. andriol from the gel caps.

I was thinking abouth this a while ago, as the
rather long ester would be longer than either Cyp
or enanthate. Therefore, less water retention.

The logistics of separating all the crap in the
cap are staggering though. HPLC was the method
I was going to use.

It would be expensive though, as andriol is VERY
expensive compared to other tests.


Godspeed
 
Ok thats it - I gotta do it now..I got caps sitting there doing nothing and there is no way I'm going to waste them orally. If someone gives me the name of a good testing lab I'll send in a ml to check my results.

In the name of science,

Hard
 
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