Any Advice on my second cycle.

[ap282]

I am currently 210 lbs 16% body fat. My first cycle i hadnt done my homework and really didnt get much from my deca and winny cycle. Please keep in mind this is my second cycle and not really looking to over do anything. Also i have done alot of reading and saved my money for this cycle i currently have on deck. I plan on starting Monday next week. Let me know what you guys think. Anything will help THANKS.

Test
Deca
Week 1-5 200mg each a week, (so 400mg total per week)

Trenbolone
Deca
HGH (US Nutropin ready mix)
Week 6-10 200mg of deca and Tren.(400mg total per week)
2 iu's of HGH everyday through week 6-12

Anti estrogen
Clomid
Proviron
Nolvadex

 

[swordfish151]

I am currently 210 lbs 16% body fat. My first cycle i hadnt done my homework and really didnt get much from my deca and winny cycle. Please keep in mind this is my second cycle and not really looking to over do anything. Also i have done alot of reading and saved my money for this cycle i currently have on deck. I plan on starting Monday next week. Let me know what you guys think. Anything will help THANKS.

Test
Deca
Week 1-5 200mg each a week, (so 400mg total per week)

Trenbolone
Deca
HGH (US Nutropin ready mix)
Week 6-10 200mg of deca and Tren.(400mg total per week)
2 iu's of HGH everyday through week 6-12

Anti estrogen
Clomid
Proviron
Nolvadex

2nd cycle and you dont want to overdue it..but your going with HGH?? I would just stick to the test (what kind by the way) and the deca.....if your going to run tren (what kind? enth? ace??)

 

[ap282]

The brand name for the deca and tren is Quality Vet. The Test is from Deknall i believe Its called test 400.

 

[axe3]

I do not like your cycle at all. You are dropping the test in wk 6 and running tren and deca alone. I think that this is a horrible idea.

Your BF is pretty high. Why not bag the deca completely and run a 10 wk cycle of test 400-500mg/wk. If you are inspired run some tren for the first 5 wks. I would run some l-dex along with the test @ .5mg eod to keep the bloat off.

If you are focused and eat clean you can have an excellent run with this. With your bf levels and the length of time you plan on running yer gh it will not do dick for you. Save your $$$.

 

[smoke67]

I agree with axe, tren and deca alone a bad idea. Another route would be deca 400 mg and test E 500 mg a week. Good luck

 

[Its All Genetics]

tren and deca is going to cause some hardcore rise in progesteron...
my second cycle was abombs at 50mgs ew an test e-500mgs ew, gained about 17 kept 12. rebound nicely have just nolva and trib...

for a second cycle i would recomend test e and an oral like dbol or abombs if u are looking for moderate gains and nothing too crazy.

tren is def a stronger drug

is it that ur afraid of test because a lot of my boyzz who have never done steroids wanna do a deca only cycle cause they think its safer then test. test is an awesome drug and i think it should be the basis of most cycles. esp one that could mess my dick up like deca and tren..


that just my 2 cent.

also i would imgaine the hgh was expensive and would have suggested spending the money on more test but thats just my opinion...

 

[ap282]

I do not like your cycle at all. You are dropping the test in wk 6 and running tren and deca alone. I think that this is a horrible idea.

Your BF is pretty high. Why not bag the deca completely and run a 10 wk cycle of test 400-500mg/wk. If you are inspired run some tren for the first 5 wks. I would run some l-dex along with the test @ .5mg eod to keep the bloat off.

If you are focused and eat clean you can have an excellent run with this. With your bf levels and the length of time you plan on running yer gh it will not do dick for you. Save your $$$.

The reson im dropping test is cause of the bloat and fat it will add during my cycle. I have read that tren and deca actually make a pretty big lean/ muscle gain thats is quality. I plan on eating well during this cycle. I am not looking for an all test cycle that will put on the weight and will disappear within 3 weeks of being off of it i have seen it happen.

 

[axe3]

The reson im dropping test is cause of the bloat and fat it will add during my cycle. I have read that tren and deca actually make a pretty big lean/ muscle gain. I plan on eating well during this cycle.

You will not be able to get it up even if you had a crane if you run tren and deca together. Not to mention the problems you will have with recovery. Both of those drugs shut you down BIG TIME.

I told you to run l-dex along with the test (this will keep the bloat off). If you get fat from a test/tren cycle. Its cuz of yer diet. I am currently on a test/tren/t-bol cycle. And I am lean as fuck. It is a question of diet and focus.

 

[ap282]

tren and deca is going to cause some hardcore rise in progesteron...
my second cycle was abombs at 50mgs ew an test e-500mgs ew, gained about 17 kept 12. rebound nicely have just nolva and trib...

for a second cycle i would recomend test e and an oral like dbol or abombs if u are looking for moderate gains and nothing too crazy.

tren is def a stronger drug

is it that ur afraid of test because a lot of my boyzz who have never done steroids wanna do a deca only cycle cause they think its safer then test. test is an awesome drug and i think it should be the basis of most cycles. esp one that could mess my dick up like deca and tren..


that just my 2 cent.

also i would imgaine the hgh was expensive and would have suggested spending the money on more test but thats just my opinion...

You think i should keep the test running through out my cycle? Maybe switch the tren and test up every shot. that way it would be incorporated throughout my cycle instead of cutting it. As for the HGH it belonged to a family member, so i got it for free (doctor prescribed it to him)

 

[ap282]

You will not be able to get it up even if you had a crane if you run tren and deca together. Not to mention the problems you will have with recovery. Both of those drugs shut you down BIG TIME.

I told you to run l-dex along with the test (this will keep the bloat off). If you get fat from a test/tren cycle. Its cuz of yer diet. I am currently on a test/tren/t-bol cycle. And I am lean as fuck. It is a question of diet and focus.

How about test tren and deca cycle through out. Why cut the deca because of the progestions.

 

[axe3]

How about test tren and deca cycle through out. Why cut the deca because of the progestions.

You could do that. However in your first post you stated that you didnt want to overdo anything. Considering you only have one cycle under your belt and it was botched I think you are doing too many drugs that shut down your hpta very hard (tren and deca). You are opening the possibility of having a very difficult time with pct.

I saw you made an addition to your post (#7) that test will blow you up and you will lose it all 3 wks later. If you properly use l-dex and have good pct in line there is no reason that you shouldnt be able to keep nearly all of your gains.

I think you should take a step back and think about what your goals are for the cycle and re-evaluate what and how much you want to put into your body.

 

[growthspurt]

You will not be able to get it up even if you had a crane if you run tren and deca together. Not to mention the problems you will have with recovery. Both of those drugs shut you down BIG TIME.

I told you to run l-dex along with the test (this will keep the bloat off). If you get fat from a test/tren cycle. Its cuz of yer diet. I am currently on a test/tren/t-bol cycle. And I am lean as fuck. It is a question of diet and focus.

Yeah, if you play with Test the right way,(diet and Training) it won't make you fat, it will help lean you up! Another thing, you're not going to get shit from running growth that short of time and @ those IU's. It will do you more harm than good.

 

[Goldprospector]

The reson im dropping test is cause of the bloat and fat it will add during my cycle. I have read that tren and deca actually make a pretty big lean/ muscle gain thats is quality. I plan on eating well during this cycle. I am not looking for an all test cycle that will put on the weight and will disappear within 3 weeks of being off of it i have seen it happen.

Bro, you have gotten a ton of great advice on your cycle vut it seems as if you still want to argue your case...Of you want to run it then run it...It is NOT a good cycle at all but if you feel that confident in your "reading" then go for it.

To adress some of your statements.. AAS don't make you fat...food and lack of calorie burn makes you fat. PERIOD!

Tren and Deca may make good gains but you are asking for trouble with progesterone levels...If you are prepair to handle female looking mammories, then have at it! You might be able to control the problem with Dostinex...but that is yet another chemical that you will need to add to "keep it simple"

You say the weight gain from a test cycle will disappear in 3 weeks because you have seen it happpen...the ONLY explanation for that is whoever ran that cycle and lost all of their gains in 3 weeks did NOT know what the hell they were doing!..They problably had improper PCT...OR...They decided to do a ton of cardio right after the cycle while on PCT....OR...they did not continue to eat correctly after the cycle. The bottom line is that the blanket statement of losing gains after a test only cycle is pure bogus bullshit!

You either need to take the advice to heart, or just run it your way and be as prepared as you can possibly be. I personally think that you need to do more research before sticking another pin in your body!

 

[asianlover]

terible cycle. what are your goals here? the only reason why you would loose alot of weight after a test cycle is you lose water weight or severly fuck up your pct. either do test/deca or test/tren. or just test. use adex to keep off the water weight. it's kinda hard to make recomendations if you don't have any clear goals for this cycle.