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Anti-Israel Thread

Fonz:

That's great. Hopefully you will put that education to good use. While you were busy entering puberty, I was assigned to front line operations in the mid-East as an OpSec advisor and trainer. Theory vs. Reality always amuses me.

I'm quite familiar with Tritium...it's on all of my Sig and H & K gear.

I have been somewhat untrue to myself so I will let it rip:

After much time in the Mid-East, watching first-hand what happens, I can honestly say that I am sick and tired of the Palestinians in specific and the Arabs in general. I am a fair-minded, fact-oriented person. Sharon's military tacticals are blunt and brutal becasue they need to be. The Arab mind, as a generalization, is eye-for-eye and the only thing they understand is getting hit across the head with a 2 X 4. It's a damn good thing I am not in charge, becasue if I had my druthers I would be doing loops around the Gaza and West Banks with Spooky's and Spectres killing anything that moves. Then, once that was done, I would bulldoze the entire god-forsaken land and do something productive with it.

Once that is done, it's time to send the balloon up. Tactical nuclear strikes on both Iran and Iraq. We need to kill at least 250,000 civilians. Let that be a shot across the bow of the rest of the Muslim population not to f**k with the US.

Had to get that out of my system. Kill 'em all and let God sort them out.

De Oppresso Liber

CF
 
clusterfoxtrot said:
Fonz:

That's great. Hopefully you will put that education to good use. While you were busy entering puberty, I was assigned to front line operations in the mid-East as an OpSec advisor and trainer. Theory vs. Reality always amuses me.



CF

Oh wait a minute I thought you said, "I'm a communications consultant and advisor. Prior to that, I designed and installed command and control centers for the DoD, before that developed electronics for various black projects, before that - I don't exist "

Hmm, now your an OpSec advisor?

Oh wait, your title was "International Man of Mystery" right?
 
clusterfoxtrot said:
Fonz:

That's great. Hopefully you will put that education to good use. While you were busy entering puberty, I was assigned to front line operations in the mid-East as an OpSec advisor and trainer. Theory vs. Reality always amuses me.

I'm quite familiar with Tritium...it's on all of my Sig and H & K gear.

I have been somewhat untrue to myself so I will let it rip:

After much time in the Mid-East, watching first-hand what happens, I can honestly say that I am sick and tired of the Palestinians in specific and the Arabs in general. I am a fair-minded, fact-oriented person. Sharon's military tacticals are blunt and brutal becasue they need to be. The Arab mind, as a generalization, is eye-for-eye and the only thing they understand is getting hit across the head with a 2 X 4. It's a damn good thing I am not in charge, becasue if I had my druthers I would be doing loops around the Gaza and West Banks with Spooky's and Spectres killing anything that moves. Then, once that was done, I would bulldoze the entire god-forsaken land and do something productive with it.

Once that is done, it's time to send the balloon up. Tactical nuclear strikes on both Iran and Iraq. We need to kill at least 250,000 civilians. Let that be a shot across the bow of the rest of the Muslim population not to f**k with the US.

Had to get that out of my system. Kill 'em all and let God sort them out.

De Oppresso Liber

CF

This thread is not about Israeli incopetence(Because the IDF
is definately NOT incompetent), its about their attitude
towards the US.

Its almost as if Israel is doing the US a favour by being friendly,
when it should be vice-versa.

FYI: I'm not a big fan of the arabs. They are DEFINATELY
too fanatical in regards to religion.

De Opresso Liber....LOL Thats the Special Forces
Motto.

I actually hiked with the SAS in their camp in Hereford, Oxfordshire
when I was attending school in the UK.

They are F*cking crazy.........50Km runs with 100lb packs.

Fonz
 
clusterfoxtrot said:

I have been somewhat untrue to myself so I will let it rip:

After much time in the Mid-East, watching first-hand what happens, I can honestly say that I am sick and tired of the Palestinians in specific and the Arabs in general. I am a fair-minded, fact-oriented person. Sharon's military tacticals are blunt and brutal becasue they need to be. The Arab mind, as a generalization, is eye-for-eye and the only thing they understand is getting hit across the head with a 2 X 4. It's a damn good thing I am not in charge, becasue if I had my druthers I would be doing loops around the Gaza and West Banks with Spooky's and Spectres killing anything that moves. Then, once that was done, I would bulldoze the entire god-forsaken land and do something productive with it.

Once that is done, it's time to send the balloon up. Tactical nuclear strikes on both Iran and Iraq. We need to kill at least 250,000 civilians. Let that be a shot across the bow of the rest of the Muslim population not to f**k with the US.

Had to get that out of my system. Kill 'em all and let God sort them out.

De Oppresso Liber

CF

shoudn't we nuke ourselves too considering we put saddam in power and gave him the green light to invade kiwait? and shouldn't we nuke ourselves for putting the shah of Iran into power as well, a move which pissed of the very religoius leaders that run that country today since the Shah tried to kill all those folks during his stint??

or maybe my history is wrong and you can correct me.
 
clusterfoxtrot,

You seem to know your ABC's about Israel.

One day I will gather up a huge army/navy/air force and wipe Israel off the face of the Earth in one MASSIVE invasion (imagine how many countries will volunteer to help me in the effort (most of Europe, asia, middle east, hell, everybody! and maybe I'll get a dozen or so million Americans to join in :) ), and paint the Israeli streets with the devil's blood.

If you can give me some advice/inside info. that will help me out, I will appreciate it! :)

$$$ for you my Jewish friend, but not on Shabbath! :)
 
MrDbol said:
clusterfoxtrot,

You seem to know your ABC's about Israel.

One day I will gather up a huge army/navy/air force and wipe Israel off the face of the Earth in one MASSIVE invasion (imagine how many countries will volunteer to help me in the effort (most of Europe, asia, middle east, hell, everybody! and maybe I'll get a dozen or so million Americans to join in :) ), and paint the Israeli streets with the devil's blood.

If you can give me some advice/inside info. that will help me out, I will appreciate it! :)

$$$ for you my Jewish friend, but not on Shabbath! :)

were do I sign up??
 
I am sure al Qaeda and the Taliban are looking for a few good men. Maybe you could become an Iraqi or Syrian national.

Of those expressing anti-Israel views, especially those that boast "that Israel doesn't care and show contempt for the US and is unnapreciative" - HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE?

I think to base your opinons on the ever-changing whims of the media - any media - is foolish. It is something one must experience in person and make their own conclusions then.

No international man of mystery here. Just did my time and now do what I do best - integrate digital imaging platforms, communications infrastructures, and satellite systems. Getting ready to move over to the academic side soon.
 
Unfortunately this is what it boils down to. People of Jewish descent on this board will support Israel unconditionally, as they should. The rest of us are caught in the middle. We are fueled by the anger of 9/11 but at the same time we have to face facts about why it happened.......
 
clusterfoxtrot said:
I am sure al Qaeda and the Taliban are looking for a few good men. Maybe you could become an Iraqi or Syrian national.

Of those expressing anti-Israel views, especially those that boast "that Israel doesn't care and show contempt for the US and is unnapreciative" - HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE?

I think to base your opinons on the ever-changing whims of the media - any media - is foolish. It is something one must experience in person and make their own conclusions then.

No international man of mystery here. Just did my time and now do what I do best - integrate digital imaging platforms, communications infrastructures, and satellite systems. Getting ready to move over to the academic side soon.

You should study your history better......

The Allied Powers didn't just let the Holocaust "happen".

At that perticular time, Hitler had control of Europe, and it
was decided that the only way to help the Jews would
be by ending the war in the most expedient way
necessary.

And that they did.

Also, have you heard about Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia?

Bet you haven't.

Anyways, he and his buddies EXTERMINATED 2 MILLION
people in Cambodia in the 70's and 80's, yet NOTHING
was done about it. NOTHING.

Again, nowadays, the JEW's ARE STILL throwing the Holocaust
into the political Arena.

GET OVER IT. It happenned 50 YEARS AGO, and it is
IMHO used nowadays to INCURR sympathy and
possible political gain.

Its always about us, us , us with the JEWS.

Even in Germany today, police officers have to be SPECIALLY
careful when dealing with a criminal of jewish descent,
fearful of a racist lawsuit.

That is TOO MUCH.


Anyways,

In regards to the situation in the Middle East. Yes, Israel should
defend itself if attacked. Why? because its their bloody
country, thats why. Should it give up some territories? NO,
no, and doubly no. Its their land. It was given to them
by the UN. If the arabs want to attack them, then let them.
My money is on Israel every single time. They are better
trained and better prepared than the arabs will ever be.

Now, if they would stop mentioning the damn Holocaust
every 2-3 months then that'll suit me fine.

Fonz
 
thought this fit into the discussion (naturally nothing clinton says can be taken too seriously - the guy would say anything for a buck):
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BUBBA: I'D FIGHT AND DIE FOR ISRAEL

By ANDY GELLER and RICHARD JOHNSON
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August 2, 2002 -- Bill Clinton - who avoided serving in Vietnam - says he would take up arms and "fight and die" for Israel if Iraq attacks the Jewish state.

"If Iraq came across the Jordan River, I would grab a rifle and get in the trench and fight and die," the ex-president said to wild applause at a Jewish fund-raiser in Toronto.

Clinton made his bombshell remarks to 350 people who paid $1,000 to break bread with him on Monday night at a dinner for the Toronto Hadassah-WIZO children's charity.

Clinton, who tried but failed to make peace in the Middle East the legacy of his presidency, decried the current cycle of violence in Israel.

"I don't think there is a military solution to this," he said. "But I know there's not a terrorist solution to it."

Clinton also said he disagreed with President Bush that peace can be achieved only when Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat is gone from power.

Nevertheless, he said it is important for the United States to remain involved because "Israelis believe that America is the only big country that cares if they live or die."

The ex-president said the best solution to the Middle East conflict is an interim settlement that would "establish a Palestinian state now."

But he stressed that the creation of such a state must be preceded by security assurances for Israel and a timetable to resolve other issues.

Clinton said Arafat made a "disastrous mistake" by turning down past peace proposals that would have given the Palestinian leader control of 97 percent of the West Bank.

Yet, Clinton said, "There is reason for hope.

"I think this will be resolved on the terms the Palestinians walked away from."

Turning his attention to another conflict, Clinton cited India and Pakistan as countries that must move forward with peace.

"They are a classic example of the tragedy that can result when people become obsessed with holding on to yesterday's grievances," he said.

Clinton couldn't be reached for comment yesterday because he was on a plane to Aspen, Colo., his spokeswoman said.

Clinton, who opposed the Vietnam War, signed up for the ROTC to avoid immediate induction when he received a draft call in 1969.

He later changed his mind about the ROTC and decided to take his chances with the new draft lottery.


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