Answers to whey powder vs. Solid food

[##spiderbaby##]

Whey protein powder vs. Solid food.

Just to give a quick example. There seems to be a lot of ?’s regarding the value of protein shakes.
I am using an inexpensive protein here. Nothing fancy.

N-Large2 10pounds $35.00---- 2 cents a gram!
29 servings
52 grams of protein.
52g X 29 servings equals 1508grams of protein. Divided by $35.00 equals $.02 per gram of protein

Tuna (canned) $.40 per can----$.008 less than a 1 cent per gram.!
1 serving = 1 can for our purpose.
45 grams of protein per can.
45 X 1 serving equals 45grams of protein(duh). Divided by $.40 a can equals $.008 per gram of protein.


Frozen chicken breasts $12.00 for 3 pounds.----3 cents a gram! (I know you can get it cheaper than this.)
Eight- 6oz servings per bag/box whatever.
9grams of protein per ounce of chicken breast.
3(pounds) X 16(ounces) equals 48ounces of chicken per bag. 48(total ounces) X 9(protein grams per ounce) equals 432grams of protein Divided by $12.00 equals $.03 per gram of protein.

Beef is similar to the chicken. It can be found cheaper sometimes.

Tuna is a no-brainer while the chicken you still have to cook.
Whey powders have a long shelf life.
Tuna has a longer shelf life.
Cooked chicken has to be refrigerated.

Now go to a discount food store like Aldi or GFS or Sam’s club and those real food number drop.

This is not intended to be in-depth (obviously) just some numbers to play with.

 

[JUICESEEKER]

That's pretty interesting. Does that mean you are better off eating tuna?

 

[lamp24]

i've always read that whole food was better and that shakes should just be used if you need a meal and you dont have time to make it or time to sit down and eat it

 

[mythos]

Tuna is pretty revolting after a while. I've tried spicing it up with other things, but it's STILL tuna.

 

[##spiderbaby##]

Just some $$ numbers. Some guys believe that powders are very cost efficient while this is not the case. Now some of those powders have other items in them that are beneficial but I just wanted to show raw money numbers.

I used a cheap Whey powder and retail food prices. You can get those food numbers even lower if you buy in bulk or generic.


2 cans of tuna is 90grams. anyone can eat two cans of tuna. Unless you really hate canned tuna.

You also can buy frozen whitefish for even lower $ per protein gram.

I am eating a can as I type!

 

[##spiderbaby##]

Tuna is pretty revolting after a while. I've tried spicing it up with other things, but it's STILL tuna.

Its not bad with a little chili powder.

Compared to whey powders tuna is delicious to me.

 

[ROLGOR]

If powderd supplements were as good as real food don't you imagine the military and nasa would use that instead of freeze dried? it would be a lot lighter. That is why they call it a suplement.

 

[##spiderbaby##]

If powderd supplements were as good as real food don't you imagine the military and nasa would use that instead of freeze dried? it would be a lot lighter. That is why they call it a suplement.

Good point! I never thought about it in those terms.

 

[undecided]

yeah I like tuna myself and use it primarily, a good 4 cans a day at least a long with boneless, skinless chicken breasts. The tuna does get to you after a while, just don't try to turn it into a shake with milk like I did once, I figured it would go down quicker, well it didn't, i blended and blended until it was all finely chopped up but man it just was revolting, I then tried to add peanut butter to it but that made it worse, I barely finished it

 

[##spiderbaby##]

yeah I like tuna myself and use it primarily, a good 4 cans a day at least a long with boneless, skinless chicken breasts. The tuna does get to you after a while, just don't try to turn it into a shake with milk like I did once, I figured it would go down quicker, well it didn't, i blended and blended until it was all finely chopped up but man it just was revolting, I then tried to add peanut butter to it but that made it worse, I barely finished it

Just know your not the first but rather part of a select few who have tried this very same thing. I crack up when I think about it. A tuna shake Thats just disgusting.

 

[newpump]

This might be a stupid reply - so please flame ON if it is, and my advance appologies! I love Tuna... eat it EVERY day about 2 to 3 times per day, but I hear that tuna in general has mercury in it and that mercury builds up in your body over time, causing all sorts of bad stuff inlcuding dementia (eventually). Should I be concerned with this at all, or am I just paranoid?

At least I don't set off metal detectors when I pass through them yet....

 

[undecided]

yeah tuna does have mercury i'm not sure how much, and i've been kind of worried about it myself, thats why i started to add some chicken breasts in, its just so much easier to eat a can of tuna than cook a chicken breast, and I don't have a scale so I don't know how much protein i'm getting from my chicken, i guess thats good in a way cause i know that i overcompensate and end up getting extra protein everytime, you don't know exactly with tuna either but you have a pretty good general idea.

 

[Aussie Juga naught]

I used to down a tin of tuna after a workout every week, but now I can hardly eat the shit strait from the can without forcing it down my throat.

 

[sigweed]

what the hell kind of tuna are you eating?
40 cents for a can with 45g protein???
the only shit ive ever seen is like $1.50 for a can with 23g protein!

 

[SUST-MAN]

It is about $1.50....but bro....its 23 grams of protien....PER SERVING!

The all have about 40-50 grams of carbs per can (6oz)

 

[##spiderbaby##]

You guys dont have a Walmart or a Sams club?

Its $.40 a can Ive seen it as low as $.29 a can.
most if not all are 15grams per serving and a can of tuna has 2-3 servings.

In fact I believe the number is 2.5 so its like 37grams per can.

 

[undecided]

1.50 damn you guys are paying way too much. I get it for 50 cents a can, and thats the starkist kind not store brand. and each can has about 2.5 servings each serving having 13 grams of protein. so you get about 32 grams of protein per can, thats pretty standard for tuna I think. There is the albacore tuna which is more expensive, around 1 - 1.50 a can its got 14 grams of protein per serving and once again about 2.5 servings, therefore about 35 grams per can, the albacore also contains some omega fatty acids not sure which ones though.

 

[swifty]

I would be very concerned about Mecury Poisoning if you are consuming 3-4+ cans of tuna a day. Something to think about.

Swift

 

[undecided]

yeah I am a little worried, I hope my grocery store puts boneless skinless chicken breasts on sale for 1.79 a pound again. I bought 40 pounds last time

 

[OAKBOX]

After the first week, i have to drown tuna in Mayo to eat it- it's so dry! I drink two 40gm shakes a day to SUPPLEMENT my solid food intake, and they taste much better than tuna... Thanks to American Whey for making Double Dutch Chocolate- such a great tasting product!

 

[adoniscomplex]

The most important thing when looking at a particular type of protein is the amino acid PROFILE. That is, the ratio of the 20 amino acids which make up the protein.

Have you guys ever heard the term "bioavalibility"?

The higher the bioavilibility of a particular protein, i.e. the more "complete" it is, hence, the better it is for bodybuilding.

The protein source with the highest bioavilibility is whey, which is followed by egg. These two proteins, on a gram per gram basis, have almost the PERFECT RATIO of the 20 amino acids needed by our bodies.

By you guys saying that "real food" proteins are "better" for you than "powdered" protein, is that based on their superior amino acid profile?

If so, could I eat 40 grams (of protein) worth of soy beans, the only "complete" plant protein and have it be just as good for me as eating 40 grams worth (of protein) of egg protein.

I DON'T THINK SO.

Wonder why 99% of protein powders on the market are WHEY?
Because it it has the HIGHEST BIOAVALIBILITY of any protein.

On a $ for $ basis, YES, it is much more cost efficient to go with "real" food source proteins, but when you look at it on a gram for gram basis, based on the amino acid profile, whey and egg protein kick the shit out of everything elese.

I searched for a chart to show what I was talking about but couldn't find one. If anybody can find a chart showing a comparison of all of the protein sources, I would appreciate it if you would post it.

i'm out.

 

[drveejay11]

If powderd supplements were as good as real food don't you imagine the military and nasa would use that instead of freeze dried? it would be a lot lighter. That is why they call it a suplement.

Hmmm.....damn intersting point! Not sure if I buy it BUT it sounds good to me

 

[adoniscomplex]

That is not a good point.
Two things:

(1) Think about trying to blend a protein shake in space or "in the field". I don't think so. They use freeze dried food for CONVIENIENCE!

AND (2) the military (or nasa for that matter) is not known for being concerned with their soldiers keeping gobs of muscle packed onto their frame. Hell, sometime the military even prohibits the use of creatine! I guess because they heard it can cause cramping and dehydration...YHEA RIGHT!
Do not use principals used by nasa or the military in a bodybuilding discussion.

I can't tell you how many times I have gotten my ass kicked by a SWOLE astronaut!

 

[Magnússon]

I eat 5 cans of tuna straigth every day, yum yum