Another VAR Question, Satch,Indy,Carth,VETS

[americany13]

OK guys,
Var is an appetite supressor, its used for strength gains, sometimes used for cutting.......ok but What if I up my Calorie Intake and Also up the VAR intake to 100mg or more (as suggested by Indy) would it build mass? Can it be compared to D-bol? if D-bol was a 10 out of 10.......where would the Var stand? Keeping in mind that Test wouldn't be used as a back bone in either cycles. Thanks guys.

 

[bilter]

var is not a mass builder. any gains you get will be lean muscle mass. Upping your cals will only make you fatter. I personally never say a need ot go aboce 40mg PD. If comparing it to dbol the only extra mass I ever got from Dbol over var was water anyway

but thats just me.............personal results may vary ;-)

 

[americany13]

Thank you for your Honesty, Interesting when you say Var=Dbol-water, Bump for more Views.

 

[Makavelli]

Any AAS can be used for building mass. Some are more potent than others. Whether you gain or not will mainly depend on your diet.

 

[americany13]

oh?, ok Thanks PAC

 

[Bruce]

Any AAS can be used for building mass. Some are more potent than others. Whether you gain or not will mainly depend on your diet.

exactly, yes if you are trying to bulk up dbol is gonna be easier to do so with, however, lots of guys cut with dbol so it really is the diet. var is easier to cut with because is curbs the appetite, allows growth on restricted diet, and it gives no water retention so there will no insane weight gain in a week or two

 

[basskiller]

Have some of you even tried Var????? Cause it doesn't seem so.
Yes you can bulk very well on Var. Hell, I wish all my cycles were nothing but LBM. Water weight is great.. if you want the look of a pufferfish until you lose it.

The biggest problem with var is that it's expensive. Yes you can get bigger faster with other drugs.. but then you also have to do a somewhat second cycle to get down to where a Var cycle brings you in the first place.

It's one of the easiest on your system It mimics tren in the way it builds LBM but without the headaches that you have to sometimes deal with in tren.

It will bring you vascularity.. I seen it around week 2.
Strength around the beginning of the thrid week if I remember correctly.. you may see different ..could be sooner.
But one thing though.. I wouldn't start that high.. say between 40 and 80mgs/ed

 

[americany13]

Have some of you even tried Var????? Cause it doesn't seem so.
Yes you can bulk very well on Var. Hell, I wish all my cycles were nothing but LBM. Water weight is great.. if you want the look of a pufferfish until you lose it.

The biggest problem with var is that it's expensive. Yes you can get bigger faster with other drugs.. but then you also have to do a somewhat second cycle to get down to where a Var cycle brings you in the first place.

It's one of the easiest on your system It mimics tren in the way it builds LBM but without the headaches that you have to sometimes deal with in tren.

It will bring you vascularity.. I seen it around week 2.
Strength around the beginning of the thrid week if I remember correctly.. you may see different ..could be sooner.
But one thing though.. I wouldn't start that high.. say between 40 and 80mgs/ed

Expense isn't a problem, as long as its safe and will yeild results.
so what you are saying is between 40-80mgs. deepending on what? body weight? well I'm 242. 5'10''. Thanks guys........I'm surprised satch and Indy never replied to this post......Happy Thanksgiving Turkey has Protein!!

 

[Indy]

OK guys,
Var is an appetite supressor, its used for strength gains, sometimes used for cutting.......ok but What if I up my Calorie Intake and Also up the VAR intake to 100mg or more (as suggested by Indy) would it build mass? Can it be compared to D-bol? if D-bol was a 10 out of 10.......where would the Var stand? Keeping in mind that Test wouldn't be used as a back bone in either cycles. Thanks guys.

You WILL gain mass on var, no it's comparable to say Dbol, but without the water, who knows. Other than some tbol experiments, var is the only oral I use now.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

You can gain mass of Var its depends on how you define mass.
To me mass is a combination of muscle and fat/water.
So i would say no you wouldnt gain mass.

What you will gain is slow steady Lean Muscle. If you can afford enough of it and stay one it for a long period of time you can gain alot of Lean Muscle on Var.
You can stay on var for very long periods of time unlike other orals.

 

[loik4]

It doesn't make sense to use Var for bulking.
If you are going to use AAS then use the right ones for the right cycles.
Thats the beauty of it - you get to choose (naturally hard work goes without saying no matter what look you are trying to accomplish).

 

[americany13]

thank you all guys!!

 

[Throw2Far]

It sounds like the perfect clean bulk for people that can't afford to blow up like the michelin man...

 

[flex2win]

I'm not sure if I believe that some drugs are specifically designed for bulking....Let me state that I've never used var, and never will due to price, but I've seen many use it to beef up due to an increase caloric intake. I remember Huck using paper a while back saying that he put on 8lb solid. 8lbs does not sound like a lot to the newcomer, but for a vet whos results decrease while amounts used increase, that's very substantial...just go and pick up one of those 10lb logs of hamburger at the grocery store and you'll see what I'm talking about..
So, yes, I do believe if you can afford it, you can use var to bulk up some, the diet is the focus here. Also, I would run some test with it..

 

[swolenole]

I think Var is a much better drug to cut...It will maintain your muscle on a reduced calorie diet, It supresses your appatite...you will get stronger,harder & more vascular...But on 40mg per day,3000 cals for 10 weeks I did not gain any mass..just maintained my body weight and strength while loosing a considerable amount of fat...and recovery is no problem at all......In the spring I'm going to do a Var/proviron 15 weeker on 60mg per day....powder...because of the price...3000 cal....

My Winter Bulker= 550mg andropene/400mg EQ 10 weeks & 25mgs per day naps for the first 21 days......

Var is safe & not very suppresive...If you wanted to be as gentle on your system as possible a primo/var cycle might be a good idea for a bulker.

and note: var may affect you libido..you might want to run 25-50 mg a day of proviron with it..if you are not running test.

 

[basskiller]

Expense isn't a problem, as long as its safe and will yeild results.
so what you are saying is between 40-80mgs. deepending on what? body weight? well I'm 242. 5'10''. Thanks guys........I'm surprised satch and Indy never replied to this post......Happy Thanksgiving Turkey has Protein!!

Yes your weight would be a factor IMO. A little shy of what I am. at 60mgs/ed would be a good place to start.. adjust or stay on target as you see fit... Remember this is not D-bol. But then again, I think D-bol is over-rated. I have a good amount of experiance with it too. RET is the only other crazy MOFO that will run D-bol at and over 100mgs/ed with me..LOL



One this I would love to see is pictures of different people side by side with their BF% for guys to judge by.. That would be nice to see..