Another Test E/Tren thread

[ace of spades]

I know there have been posts about this in the past, but I have a couple of specific questions

First, I am currently in the middle of an eq/win cycle. I didn't think I wanted to add test, but I know some people that swear by it, so I think I'll give it a shot. I should have added it to this cycle, but whats done is done. My interest in tren ace stems from a lot of posts on this board. Bros on here love it! I figure if I'm going to give test e a go I might as well try it with tren since that combo appears very popular.

Here's my background:

1 – Age: 26

2 - Lifting History: I’ve been lifting for about 6 years, mostly heavy (for me) ie fewer reps w/ heavier wight. A few years ago I did a 10 week cycle of cyp/win without PCT. I didn’t really notice any side effects, but I was probably just oblivious.

3 – Height: 5’11”

4 – Weight: 200 lbs

5 - Estimated BF%: I'm not sure. Before I started my cycle I would have guessed it was around 15%, so it should be less now, right? LOL. The EQ has definitely made me hungrier than ever, which isn't so good. Honestly, I would say my BF is still around the same, although my jeans are much looser (a good thing). I'm a 34 waist and I know I still have a lot of work to do.

(Me eating everything in site)

6 – Diet: I try to eat as best I can. Egg whites in the morning, protein bar for a snack, and tuna/chicken throughout the day. I’m in college, so sometimes my diet isn’t as perfect as this. Plus, like I said the EQ makes me hungrier than hell.

7 – Goals: For this cycle I want to get much stronger and add muscle. Losing BF is always good too.

8 - Proposed cycle:

tren ace: 525 mg/wk (75mg/ed). I have zero experience with tren, but from what I've read, it should be taken every day, ya?

test e: 600 mg/wk: Again, from what I've read it's best to break this up over the week. I was thinking 200mg every Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday.

I want to get the most out of this cycle- Should I add anything else? I seem to recall a post about a tren/test e/eq cycle.

PCT:

This is where I need a lot of help!!

Nolvadex: I read that this is good for anti-e during the cycle & as PCT.

20-30 mg/ed during the cycle if I see estrogen problems during the cycle and continue a few days after symptoms cease.

40 - 50 mg/ed as PCT beginning 1 wk after last injection and continuing for 3 - 5 weeks, tapering down to 20 - 30 mg/ed.

HCG: stacked with the nolvadex during PCT. 1500 - 3000 IU every 5 - 6 days. Discontinue HCG 1 week before discontinuing nolvadex.

I feel like I'm missing something here, so hopefully bros with experience with this cycle can clue me in.

FINALLY: From what I've gathered, the time off in between cycles should be about as long as you spent on. So should I wait about 15 weeks from the end of my current 15wk eq/win cycle before starting this cycle?

Any advice would be great!

Thanks,
Ace

 

[dsh89]

Sounds good bro and it looks like you have done plenty of research bro. But I would avoid the Nolva while running a Nandrolone. Use Clomid for PCT instead. Time on should equal time off, but if you get your blood levels checked and they are ok, you would be fine to start back on. Shoot the test 2 time a week, not 3. Start the HCG the last couple of weeks before your cycle ends, and run it 2 weeks after your cycle, then start you Clomid.

 

[ace of spades]

thanks, bro. I try to do my research before posting, but could you tell me more about getting my blood levels checked?

What am I looking for in particular? Where is the best place to do this?

Thanks,
Ace

 

[dsh89]

As far as you testosterone levels, if you do not have a doctor that would do this for you, the are internet based sites, where you have your blood drawn at a local Lab-Corp, and then sent off and they charge whatever fee for the lab tests. Also get your liver enzymes and kidney function checked as well. So basically you want a CBC, Chem 12, and Testosterone testing. You want everything back to within normal limits.

 

[njmuscleguy]

A few suggestions: if you're gonna run tren ace and do daily pokes anyway, might as well run prop instead of enth... it'll kick in faster and it will also clear the system faster

Don't run nolva during that cycle or for PCT for that matter... as stated, use clomid for PCT (50mg ED for 4-6 weeks) ... nolva might increase the risk of gyno if you're prone.. also run an AI during your cycle (my vote is aromasin or AIFM)

I personally would run HCG at 500iu ED for 10 days... if you're running short esters like ace and prop, then the last 10 days of the cycle, shoot the HCG...then start clomid and continue with your AI

Time off = Time on + PCT
Also as stated, use bloodwork to verify that your levels are back to normal... if your doctor is cool, and you have insurance, this is your best bet as these tests are expensive... otherwise, find a lab online