another hmg / hcg question

[wolfman87]

what is the proper way to recover from taking hcg or hmg alone? i was thinking about athletes getting caught with this stuff and saying that's all they were using, which led me to this question.

i've also been tossing around the idea of running hmg to "plump up" more since my pct didn't quite get me to my old self. did pre pct with tbol and proviron and then 30mg first week 20mg second of clomid on top of the test recovery stack. not the best i know but could only get the clomid from a buddy of mine who didn't have that much and i decided it would be better than nothing (i was counting on getting hcg for free but that fell through).

anyway, is this a good idea or not and what do i do (if anything) to recover from it if it's alright?

 

[Nelson Montana]

HMG is better for recovery because it actually increases the bodies ability to produce LH as opposed to just mimicking it. HCG is just a "false jump start" whereas HMG is more of a "head start" -- if that makes sense. But you'll still need help once it wears off. That's where UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, Sustain and arimidex come in.

 

[wolfman87]

so if you take hmg you need to treat it like a cycle itself (even after a pct)?

 

[halfcenturian]

HMG on the way. Can't wait.

 

[wolfman87]

are you using it in conjunction with something or by itself?

 

[iceman7230]

Is HMG used through out cucle or after?

What are the doses that sould be used?

Nelson?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Is HMG used through out cucle or after?

What are the doses that sould be used?

Nelson?

Use it like HCG -- when the testes get atrophied, and/or at the end of a cycle. One 75i.u. vial broken into 2 shots ought to do it.

 

[fast_lane]

HMG is better for recovery because it actually increases the bodies ability to produce LH as opposed to just mimicking it. HCG is just a "false jump start" whereas HMG is more of a "head start" -- if that makes sense. But you'll still need help once it wears off. That's where UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, Sustain and arimidex come in.

Arimidex??Can u explain me what for Nelson?As an anti-e?Does hmg aromatises?Or dose it have some other abilitys?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Arimidex??Can u explain me what for Nelson?As an anti-e?Does hmg aromatises?Or dose it have some other abilitys?

Not sure of the aromatization rate of HMG but it's less than HCG. The reason for dex at the end of a cycle is simple -- estrogen rises as T goes down. This is the case at the end of every cycle. It's the reason people took Nolva. But Nolva is site specific, making it far less effective. Yet, for some reason, people got the idea that it was better and completely lost sight of the reason for an anti e in the first place. (It may have to do with some mistaken belief, perpetuated by internet gurus, that nolva raises testosterone). Dex is much better.

 

[halfcenturian]

are you using it in conjunction with something or by itself?

You use it just like HCG. It's just WAY more effective.

 

[wolfman87]

so does that mean that you still need to use sustain or does it just elevate test levels for a couple of days and then return them to normal after it wears off? i'm just wanting to get my nuts up to normal size and my test levels as close to normal as possible before i go get a blood test.

 

[fast_lane]

Not sure of the aromatization rate of HMG but it's less than HCG. The reason for dex at the end of a cycle is simple -- estrogen rises as T goes down. This is the case at the end of every cycle. It's the reason people took Nolva. But Nolva is site specific, making it far less effective. Yet, for some reason, people got the idea that it was better and completely lost sight of the reason for an anti e in the first place. (It may have to do with some mistaken belief, perpetuated by internet gurus, that nolva raises testosterone). Dex is much better.

Ok i see,but is this applicable also with coumpounds that dont aromatise like right know i'm doing a cycle of turanabol-EQ should it still be neccesairie to take dex with my pct?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ok i see,but is this applicable also with coumpounds that dont aromatise like right know i'm doing a cycle of turanabol-EQ should it still be neccesairie to take dex with my pct?

You'll still be supressed which raises e, but between the POST CYCLE and the Sustain you may not need dex with that combo.

 

[wolfman87]

well i guess i'll just do it and then run sustain afterwards...

 

[Nelson Montana]

so does that mean that you still need to use sustain or does it just elevate test levels for a couple of days and then return them to normal after it wears off? i'm just wanting to get my nuts up to normal size and my test levels as close to normal as possible before i go get a blood test.

Sustain alone won't guarantee normal T or testicular size. Follow all the rules bro, not just one or two. Then you may just be disappointed and say the stuff doesn't work.

 

[wolfman87]

what else do i need to add? or should i just run the recovery stack on top of the hmg instead of after?

 

[Nelson Montana]

what else do i need to add? or should i just run the recovery stack on top of the hmg instead of after?

HMG

UNLEASHED

POST CYCLE

Sustain

a-dex

I believe The Recovery Stack is more for maintaining muscle and avoiding catabolism. For that, you can also add VIGOR and BIG BLAST www.proteinfactory.com The key is to get the body as efficient as possible on its own,without drugs. If you don't recover, you might as well stay on.

 

[wolfman87]

indeed. i'm just coming off of my pct (last day) of what you just said minus the hmg and aifm instead of adex. also it's funny i was just about to order big blast after christmas (funds are low). will doing hmg now with sustain be alright or should i definitely wait till i have the money to get more unleased and post cycle (still have enough aifm).

 

[fast_lane]

HMG

UNLEASHED

POST CYCLE

Sustain

a-dex

I believe The Recovery Stack is more for maintaining muscle and avoiding catabolism. For that, you can also add VIGOR and BIG BLAST Protein Factory Inc. The key is to get the body as efficient as possible on its own,without drugs. If you don't recover, you might as well stay on.

When u say u might stay on,are u suggesting going on hrt??

 

[theperfectdrug187]

Use it like HCG -- when the testes get atrophied, and/or at the end of a cycle. One 75i.u. vial broken into 2 shots ought to do it.

Nelson, is this all the HMG you need at the end of a cycle? One 75iu vial split into 2 shots? Normally I take one 500iu shot of HCG for 10 days... Could you clarify a little more on the HMG regiment?