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gearseeker

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Hey guys,

Here is the cycle I started yesterday:

daily:
80mg Ttokkyo dbol ed
20mg Ttokkyo WV ed
250mg Ttokkyo testonon ed
200mg Brovel T200 ed
1mg anastrozole ed

weekly:
300mg Ttokkyo deca wk

Add 100mg anadrol ed at week six and drop the dbol.

This puts me at 4000mg + per week. Ill stay at app. the same dosage for 10 weeks then taper lightly for two more before doing a 4 week bridge of anavar and denkadiol. Then its back on a big one without any orals (my liver will need a break).

Ill post my liver values when I have my blood work done post cycle.
 
i owuld tkae the drol for 2-3 weeks at 560-100mgs then afgter that take the d-bol at 50-75mgs up to week 5-6..the sus for 3 weeks at ed then after that start the t200 or you cna start the t200 on week 3 of the sus the last week 300mgs of deca is fine...i say for 8-10 weeks of deca the t-200 up to week 10 is good...but that is what i would do.
 
those dosages seem pretty decent...except for the 20mg Ttokkyo WV ed ..i assume that is their winny...why only 20mg ED...seems kinda low in comparison to your other dosages.
 
Little arnold - The WV is to fight progesterone from the deca. I would normally use 100mg per day, but Im already taking the dbol, so I need to spare my liver a little bit. Ive found 10-20mg ed works OK for the progesterone problem. Yes, Im using the Ttokkyo 10mg tablets - very, very nice!!

Gainz - The cycle is 12 weeks. dbol for half, A50 for half. Everything else will continue through until the last two weeks where I will taper slightly before bridging.

Previous cycles I would start with the A50, then switch to dbol. I thought I would try it the other way this time and see what happens. Im hoping to get a fresh kick at week seven when I start the A50.

I would again like to thank Ttokkyo for being so fucking kick ass!! Also a very loud thanks to the makers of Liquidex. You guys rock!
 
I dont think that 300mg deca will cause progesterone gyno, but eh 100mg drol might, I like the cycle, and keep us posted.
 
DCS - stupid?

Im very experienced and a very advanced trainer. As an example my best squat is 625 for 4 reps. My best dead lift is picking up the back end of my sisters car. I accept that my chest strength is genetically limited. It grows but Ive never been able to press 405. I think my trainings fine.

Ive competed at 4.5% bodyfat. I am now 210 at less then 10%. I think my diet is fine.

DCS - you must have very different goals and I totally understand. If I was happy having a nice body I would have stopped years ago. I want to look like a freak and compete in bodybuilding as a heavy weight. For me that means about 4 grams of gear a week. I started at about a gram, and over the years I have gradually bumped it up to where I am now. I certainly wouldnt recomend this cycle to a beginner.

FYI - my liver values should be in the normal range as well as my blood pressure. Beleive what you want, but my doctor screens my blood several times a year, and even at 150mg of anadrol per day I stay in the normal range (and YES MY GEAR IS REAL!!!) So, even at this amount, I am healthy and happy as far as my doctor and I are concerned.

Finally, DCS - what makes you an expert? What about this cycle do you think is wrong? Dont think its nuts just because you dont have the same tolerance for the drugs. And please dont call me stupid.
 
Gearseeker! Thats 3150mg of test a week for 12 weeks, WHY??


Why not a gram? Why 2 harsh c17aa steroids? Are you just trying to show off or stupid?

Do you think this will make you gain 60lbs? Why not just 30lbs?

I really dont understand your plan of attack?
 
DCS - please email me. Im curoius what drugs/dosages you were using. The more info the better.

Ive heard of others having "sick" side effects from high doses but its usually from orals and fina. Thats why the test enanthate is the only drug I go crazy on. Its not toxic and its fairly easy on my body if Im taking liquidex. Im curious though if you felt sick on testosterone.

I did the same kind of experiment that you did. About a year ago. I was always using about the same mg per week and my weight was up and down with each cycle. When I upped the dosages gradually I started to grow again. Now that I know what to feel for, I up the dosage as I think my body can use it. Or when I am not making progress with each cycle.

I used to think the pros were nuts (or even the national level guys), but now it makes sense. The bigger you get the more drugs it takes to maintain size during a bridge - and a lot more to actually grow.
 
Lawnsaver - 3gms of test works great. I agree that 1gm is good for most, but after many cycles at that dosage, I need more to grow. Test isnt toxic. It all comes down to side effects. If you can avoid the side effects, the more test you take the more you grow.

The only reason for stacking the two orals, is to use WV to control progesterone from the deca, and from the anadrol later in the cyle. Im only taking 100mg per day of orals. For me that is very safe and my liver should be fine.

I expect to gain 30lbs during 12 weeks. Because Im following with a bridge of anavar and using Liquidex the entire time, Im hoping the gain will be solid.

Im crazy - not stupid. Big difference.
 
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