Anavar

[matt8975]

Hi all just got some Anavar, orange coloured tablets 10mg each. I have just finished reading William Llewellyn’s ANABOLICS 9th edition which I think is the latest edition.

As a medication (i.e. for aids etc a dosage of 5-10mg for 3-4 weeks

Taken as SPORT ENHANCING DRUG a dosage of 15-25mg per day for 6 to 8 weeks!

From what I have read in his book, I have seen it is quite mild, but seem to read stories everywhere that border on scare tactics, saying this drug is deadly and super powerful and saying such things as cases of Hepatitis, which does not seem to true from what I have researched. Seems to me some researchers are blowing out of proportion the side effects of this stuff.

Anyway my cycle I have in mind as me and my girlfriend will be using this is

Male
15mg for 5-7 weeks

Female
10mg for 5-7 weeks

I am keeping the dose low I just wanted any advice as I have seen advice for (pre and post liver protection)

I was thinking some Milk thistle, some R-ALA and some NAC and of course some Nolvadex just for me as the female requires nothing PCT
Was just thinking of the above liver protection and was wondering how many mg’s of each to take during the cycle and after?

Thanks for your advice in advance

 

[eClenbuterol]

15mg anavar per day will give you pretty much no results. What are your stats and long term goals with AS?

 

[matt8975]

I am 205 pounds, looking just to get ripped and lean

I have been training 11 years

 

[GOLUAN]

How many cycles have you done?

 

[matt8975]

none, im what you could call a newbie so this is goin to be my first cycle

 

[C.K.]

I dont think ANY steroid should be dosed under 50 mgs a day... if your trying to get any visable results that is...

 

[C.K.]

And stop spamming all the anavar threads!!!

 

[Mac173]

I am 205 pounds, looking just to get ripped and lean

I have been training 11 years

Not interested in doing a little stronger cycle. Nothing wrong with a var only cycle but you may be dissapointed with a low dose var only cycle. I would recommend a dosage of at least 50 or 60mg/day should you decide on a var only cycle.

 

[usmcnut]

40-50mg everyday to start for you.
10-20mg everyday for your girl.

See how you like it and dose up if needed.

15mg is not going to do anything for you bro. Anavar isn't cheap and you need a bunch.

 

[Sckank]

I'm doing 20mg a day and it works wonders. Done 2 cycles before, one at 40mg and one at 60mg ED. Nice pumps, great strength increase, perfect libido.

 

[empirebuilder]

I would run it at 60mg ed. I absolutely love Anavar!!!

 

[matt8975]

I'm doing 20mg a day and it works wonders. Done 2 cycles before, one at 40mg and one at 60mg ED. Nice pumps, great strength increase, perfect libido.

"20mg var only???"

 

[nicpanek]

i have ran var at 40mg and tapped up to 60mg that was nice but the 2nd time i ran it at 80mg and i would say with the appropriate diet this is a min dosage for it great results with a lil test as well

 

[matt8975]

ok what about 40/50mg anavar only

For liver protection, just take the liv52and then Take the milk thistle during your PCT to recover mself

For PCT the following protocol the day aftermy last dose of var

Nolva 40/20/20

 

[usmcnut]

You don't need liver protection with Var... It is so mild you could eat 200mg a day and not need thistle.

 

[websy21]

You don't need liver protection with Var... It is so mild you could eat 200mg a day and not need thistle.

K this is such BAAAAAAAAAAD advice.... everyone please disregard this, I don't care who you are!!!!!

For beginnner, start out 40mg ed for a few than taper up to atleast 50-60mg. I wouldn't personally do less than 60mg myself and anymore than 80mg. 100mg should be tops, enough said. 200mg period is mentally insane!

Anavar is indeed toxic to the liver/kidneys, it is amoung more of the milder ones in this aspect but still should be proceeded with caution. Hence a liver aid, like liv52 for example no matter what dosage. It should also be ran between 6-8 weeks, especially if dosage is in the higher range. Just because its one of the more milder ones on the liver doesn't mean you can eat the shit like skittles and expect not to run any liver protectants and have a 'safe' cycle. Not to mention the addition of high colesterol levels from it! Its a STEROID people!!!

 

[matt8975]

websy thanks for the advice there I was always goin to run liver potection althougjh from my research I have read several people saying it is not required!! (I THINK ITS ALWAYS BETTER TO PLAY SAFE AND PROTECT YOUR LIVER)

Would like very much your feedback on this 5 week cycle?

40/mg anavar only

For liver protection, just take the liv52and then Take the milk thistle during your PCT to recover mself (or someay Thistle is rubbish?)

And some NAC N Acetyl Cysteine for liver protection?

Also read cranberry juice mixed with water is good for cleaning youu out!


For PCT the following protocol the day aftermy last dose of var

nolva 40/20/20

 

[matt8975]

or run all as aboce but instead of running with 40 straight off!!

As a newbie

go week 1

30mg anavar

week 2

35mg

week3

40mg

week 4

40mg

week 5

40mg

then pct NOLVA

40/20/20 ??

Or just staert 40mg and keep 40mg for 5 week?

 

[usmcnut]

K this is such BAAAAAAAAAAD advice.... everyone please disregard this, I don't care who you are!!!!!

For beginnner, start out 40mg ed for a few than taper up to atleast 50-60mg. I wouldn't personally do less than 60mg myself and anymore than 80mg. 100mg should be tops, enough said. 200mg period is mentally insane!

Anavar is indeed toxic to the liver/kidneys, it is amoung more of the milder ones in this aspect but still should be proceeded with caution. Hence a liver aid, like liv52 for example no matter what dosage. It should also be ran between 6-8 weeks, especially if dosage is in the higher range. Just because its one of the more milder ones on the liver doesn't mean you can eat the shit like skittles and expect not to run any liver protectants and have a 'safe' cycle. Not to mention the addition of high colesterol levels from it! Its a STEROID people!!!

Why is it bad advice??? Do you wear a condom everytime you have sex? Do you put alcohol on every boo boo you get... Here is some reading!!

Oxandrolone appears to offer less hepatic stress thai other c-17 alpha alkylated steroids. The manufactur€ identifies oxandrolone as a steroid that is not extensiveli metabolized by the liver like other 17-alpha alkylatel, orals, which may be a factor in its reduced hepatotoxicit~ This is evidenced by the fact that more than a third of th! compound is still intact when excreted in the urine.

Another study comparing the effects of oxandrolone to other alkylated agents including methyltestosteron

norethandrolone, fluoxymesterone, and methandrid\ demonstrated that oxandrolone causes the lowest sulfobromophthalein (SSP; a marker of liver stress! retention of the agents tested.402 20 mg of oxandrolon produced 72% less SSP retention than an equal dosage of fluoxymesterone, which is a considerable difference being that they are both 17-alpha alkylated.

I have run big doses of A bombs and Dbol (100mg) and my liver values have always gone back to normal while using no protection... Yes it is up to the user of course... But like I said..IMO you don't need liver protection for a 5 week run of a low dose var cycle!!

 

[matt8975]

Is there a page on this s ite where I can post pictures of the Anavar I ordered to let you guys look at it, and tell me what you think?

Is there general rules for posting pics of anavar packet? Do i just need to blank out lab name?

Thanks

Matt

 

[websy21]

Why is it bad advice??? Do you wear a condom everytime you have sex? Do you put alcohol on every boo boo you get... Here is some reading!!

Oxandrolone appears to offer less hepatic stress thai other c-17 alpha alkylated steroids. The manufactur€ identifies oxandrolone as a steroid that is not extensiveli metabolized by the liver like other 17-alpha alkylatel, orals, which may be a factor in its reduced hepatotoxicit~ This is evidenced by the fact that more than a third of th! compound is still intact when excreted in the urine.

Another study comparing the effects of oxandrolone to other alkylated agents including methyltestosteron

norethandrolone, fluoxymesterone, and methandrid\ demonstrated that oxandrolone causes the lowest sulfobromophthalein (SSP; a marker of liver stress! retention of the agents tested.402 20 mg of oxandrolon produced 72% less SSP retention than an equal dosage of fluoxymesterone, which is a considerable difference being that they are both 17-alpha alkylated.

I have run big doses of A bombs and Dbol (100mg) and my liver values have always gone back to normal while using no protection... Yes it is up to the user of course... But like I said..IMO you don't need liver protection for a 5 week run of a low dose var cycle!!

YES, I do understand its less stressful as the 17's, etc and I did note that, right! Doesn't mean you can't spend $40 bucks on some liver protection to be safe even if you are running a short and low dosage. IMO a short and low dosage of Anavar is a waste, especially by itself.

You claim you've dropped 100mg bombs of Var, k I beleive that and my buddy is doing it right now too. I did say 100mg is the biggest I'd go but before you stated 200mg, not 100mg. Just a tad difference there!

YOU my friend can do anything you like but I'd advise for everyone, especially a newb to run a liv supplement. People spend hundreds and thousands on gear than you hear of them skimking out on the secondary drugs, suplements, aids, proper needles, etc, etc. Than they wonder why they had a problem? Some might get away with it but why chance it? I just can't wrap it around my head because it might not effect you NOW but the future is just around the corner. We only have one body and have to live a lifetime in it, unless you have different plans? I'm cool, I will pass for paying later for it down the road myself! I gave one buddy of mine some M1t for free once but I made him promise me that he wouldn't drink on it though. Anyways.....

JFI - Everyone responds differentely to gear, supplements, etc. My old training partner would match my diet and program and would barely respond to expensive supplements that I could see the effects. Heck, he even said that M1T didn't really do much to him. He even took double the dose as me once, I'd have crazy pumps with veins like ropes, wayyy stronger, add 12-15 lbs each cycle and would want to rip someone's head off if they said Hi to me LOL

 

[websy21]

or run all as aboce but instead of running with 40 straight off!!

As a newbie

go week 1

30mg anavar

week 2

35mg

week3

40mg

week 4

40mg

week 5

40mg

then pct NOLVA

40/20/20 ??

Or just staert 40mg and keep 40mg for 5 week?

If you could run atleast 50mg ed and see how that go's, I'd do 60mg ed myself. As for PCT, drop the Nolva and get PP's TRS Stack and you'll be set my friend!

 

[Gawd]

There's a steroid pics section.

As far as the dosing, I think i've read women should not go over 10mg (could be wrong though, definitly look into it more).

For dosing it would be dependant on the grade of the var. I'm not expert as i'm currently using it for the first time, but I am doing 80mg of UG stuff right now and It's working great. I'm running for 8 weeks and the last 4 weeks I will be using pharm grade. With the pharm grade I think I will be dropping the dosage to 50mg and see how that works since I hear it is much more potent.

For liver protection I want to be safe so I'm running Liv.52, Forged Liver Protection and Cranberry Extract.

PCT I will be using Sustain Alpha (6 pumps ed/5 days on, 2 days off) and Clomid at 25mg/ed.
I don't think the clomid is neccesary for this cycle as I've heard lots of people run it without any PCT without much problems, but why risk it. I'm running a PH also which is why I decided to add the clomid with the Sustain.

I hope this helps a bit.

 

[usmcnut]

YES, I do understand its less stressful as the 17's, etc and I did note that, right! Doesn't mean you can't spend $40 bucks on some liver protection to be safe even if you are running a short and low dosage. IMO a short and low dosage of Anavar is a waste, especially by itself.

You claim you've dropped 100mg bombs of Var, k I beleive that and my buddy is doing it right now too. I did say 100mg is the biggest I'd go but before you stated 200mg, not 100mg. Just a tad difference there!

YOU my friend can do anything you like but I'd advise for everyone, especially a newb to run a liv supplement. People spend hundreds and thousands on gear than you hear of them skimking out on the secondary drugs, suplements, aids, proper needles, etc, etc. Than they wonder why they had a problem? Some might get away with it but why chance it? I just can't wrap it around my head because it might not effect you NOW but the future is just around the corner. We only have one body and have to live a lifetime in it, unless you have different plans? I'm cool, I will pass for paying later for it down the road myself! I gave one buddy of mine some M1t for free once but I made him promise me that he wouldn't drink on it though. Anyways.....

JFI - Everyone responds differentely to gear, supplements, etc. My old training partner would match my diet and program and would barely respond to expensive supplements that I could see the effects. Heck, he even said that M1T didn't really do much to him. He even took double the dose as me once, I'd have crazy pumps with veins like ropes, wayyy stronger, add 12-15 lbs each cycle and would want to rip someone's head off if they said Hi to me LOL

I hear you bro!! You did misunderstand me a little... I meant I have used alot of Abombs and Dbol at or above 100mg ed for 6 weeks and have had my liver check after and has always went back in the good. And they are why worse a 17 then var. And by the 200mg remark, I was meaning 200mg of Var is as bad a 50mg of Dbol , Not that bad.
And you are correct, The right thing to say would have been, liver protection is a good idea. But I don't use it, unless I am running muti orals.