moose11 said:hmm im getting it for a female friend...so i dunno what chances I want to take. Tiger have u tried it? was it recently if u have?
If it is for a female, don't fuck with cheaper. You need to go with what is RELIABLE. Women have NO room for error and possibilities. If you give her something simply because it was cheap, you could be seriously screwing her (and not in the good sense where everyone gets a happy ending).
IMO, go with:
RCs Papervar
British Dragon
Denkall
I'd say BTG, but it is unlikely you'll find it AND get the real thing. But if you can get the real thing, go with that.