Ox is the safest
Ox is an oral, mild 17AA roid. Not that harsh on the liver. When keeping it under 60 mgr/day no ball shrinking (not for me). No high BP, in fact no sides but personaly it gave me prostate problems (from day 5), but since i am the only one you can skip that too.
Gains are permanent and solid. Never thought i would find a roid that could be better then Primobolan.
With Ox you gain some muscle and loose fat the same time. And believe it or not, no extra protein is needed (but it could be giving better results).
Fonz did a 2 week Ox cycle with 150 mgr/day, but he got barely any result of it. It depends on the person.
As for Winny: shutdown of your test production.
Possible hairloss. Hard on the liver, so best is to take this one for 6-8 weeks max. Winny cannot beat Ox when strenght is considered. Especially when the Ox is taken with Creatine, strenght goes through the roof. As for gains: when taking 100 mgr/Winny a day, results will be better then taking 100 mgr Ox/day. 100 mgr OX/day could be overkill for some.
So why not take the 2 together?