Anavar + T-Bol + HCGenerate + Forma Stanzol?

[rockyourroll]

I'm putting together a new mild cycle to gain some lean mass, cut BF, and harden up a bit. I'm 28, 5'8 165 ~10%BF.

Diet wise, since I'm trying to putting on muscle but lean out, I'm thinking of eating 325 cals over maintenance, very high protein and low carb, moderate fat, and including cardio 3-4x week.

I planned on running this with prop originally but am having some source troubles. I am a bit hesitant about including it anyways since I'm facing some hair loss issues right now and am a little paranoid, don't want to aggravate things with test since I had shedding issues with previous cycles.

I may still end up throwing in the prop and moving this to 8 weeks if I can get a hold of it and feel like the hair loss is stable, but I'm curious what you guys think of this oral only + support:

1-6 Tbol 50mg/day
1-6 Var 60mg/day
1-6 HCGenerate/N2Guard
6-10 Clomid 50/25/12.5/12.5
6-10 HCGenerate / Forma Stanzol

+ Multi, fish oil, liv52 everday as I normally do.

Question: Should I run the forma throughout the cycle? My understanding is that var/tbol don't aromatize. However I had some bloat from Tbol in the past. Could have certainly been from too much sodium/not enough water. But Is there any downside to running forma all the way through to stay dry?

I'm thinking the HCGenerate should keep the libido and energy up on cycle and make for a speedy recovery and seems like a nice fill-in for not test. It will be my first time running HCGen and I'm excited to try it for myself.

To me, this seems like a nice little cycle that should produce some solid strength and muscle gains - barring I work my ass off and eat clean. Any input is appreciated.

 

[dylangemelli]

I'm putting together a new mild cycle to gain some lean mass, cut BF, and harden up a bit. I'm 28, 5'8 165 ~10%BF.

Diet wise, since I'm trying to putting on muscle but lean out, I'm thinking of eating 325 cals over maintenance, very high protein and low carb, moderate fat, and including cardio 3-4x week.

I planned on running this with prop originally but am having some source troubles. I am a bit hesitant about including it anyways since I'm facing some hair loss issues right now and am a little paranoid, don't want to aggravate things with test since I had shedding issues with previous cycles.

I may still end up throwing in the prop and moving this to 8 weeks if I can get a hold of it and feel like the hair loss is stable, but I'm curious what you guys think of this oral only + support:

1-6 Tbol 50mg/day
1-6 Var 60mg/day
1-6 HCGenerate/N2Guard
6-10 Clomid 50/25/12.5/12.5
6-10 HCGenerate / Forma Stanzol

+ Multi, fish oil, liv52 everday as I normally do.

Question: Should I run the forma throughout the cycle? My understanding is that var/tbol don't aromatize. However I had some bloat from Tbol in the past. Could have certainly been from too much sodium/not enough water. But Is there any downside to running forma all the way through to stay dry?

I'm thinking the HCGenerate should keep the libido and energy up on cycle and make for a speedy recovery and seems like a nice fill-in for not test. It will be my first time running HCGen and I'm excited to try it for myself.

To me, this seems like a nice little cycle that should produce some solid strength and muscle gains - barring I work my ass off and eat clean. Any input is appreciated.

i wouldn't run two orals like that bro... that's going to be really harsh... i don't like that... you could run anavar and proviron... they go together very nicely...

i am thinking that your diet was off if you got bloated on tbol bro... i think you already know that...

you can definitely run forma throughout and you should... test prop and anavar would be an excellent cycle if you can get the test...

pct
clomid 25/25/25/25
unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol
daa powerchews or powder

 

[rockyourroll]

i wouldn't run two orals like that bro... that's going to be really harsh... i don't like that... you could run anavar and proviron... they go together very nicely...

i am thinking that your diet was off if you got bloated on tbol bro... i think you already know that...

you can definitely run forma throughout and you should... test prop and anavar would be an excellent cycle if you can get the test...

pct
clomid 25/25/25/25
unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol
daa powerchews or powder

I appreciate your response. I was a little concerned about stacking them at the same time. What would you think about 1 after the other?

Something like this:

1-4 tbol 50mg
4-8 Var 50-60mg
1-8 HCGenerate / Forma / N2Guard
8-12 Clomid 25/25/25/25, Forma, Post Cycle

@isteroids - hair loss is a big concern for me at the moment and I'm having a tough time getting ahold of the prop I originally planned on.

Edit: Is it really necessary to take 7 capsules of N2Guard, especially if I'm already taking a multi + liv 52? Not sure if I can add an extra $140 into the budget for it. Is something like CES Cycle Assist comparable?

 

[rockyourroll]

Am I right in the approach to take HCGenerate throughout the whole cycle, for the purpose of maintaining libido and energy if/when I get shutdown? I see a lot of people save HCGenerate for mid-way through a cycle or during PCT.

 

[rustilldown]

You can run the both of em together just keep the doses maybe something like 40/40. I would definitely take the need2guard it really does help in all aspects.! And yes, 7 capsules. Hcgenerate through whole cycle as well, who doesn't like a nice boost of test anyways might as well reap the benefits from day 1.


Ride it like you stole it!!

 

[dylangemelli]

it depends on the cycle and how long it is in determining when to start hcgenerate... on a long test cycle it will be started later in the cycle... on orals, it will go from the start...

you could run them back to back as you have it laid out but i feel 4 weeks of anavar is not enough... tbol is fine at 4 but you need to get 6 weeks from anavar... you could overlap them if you are intent on running two orals... you could run tbol 1-4 and anavar 3-8... this would be a good option...