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anavar or winny? what do you think?
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Well you hooked me up
The choice (there is no choice) is Anavar.
This is way:
1) no sides with Ox when taken for max 12 weeks
2) easy on the liver
3) Ox will cut you more up then Winny
4) if low on body fat, abs will show Ox attacks the fat right under the skin)
5) more easy on the hair
6) some do get acne, but this depends on the person (i don't)
7) HPTA will not shut down, but your test production will be less
8) strenght gains of Ox are superior to Winny
9) less mgr/week needed with Ox
Now take Winny:
1) most take the Winny-V and drink it
2) hard on the liver
3) hard on the hair
4) you get a more cut look, but not like with Ox
5) if low on body fat, abs will NOT show, unless you really are very low, but then you don't need Winny for that.
6) Winny should be taken for only 6-8 weeks max
7) watch out for "jaundice"
8) severe acne is a serious problem
9) HPTA will shut down
And:
Ox can be taken for more then 3 months if you watch your cholesterol level (high and good one will go down).
You cannot take Winny for that long.
Price for both is about the same, if you have the right source.
liver can easily be controlled with a strong liver detoxifier (no, not milk tistle, skip that one).
You need one that contains Calcium D-Glucarate or L-reduced Glutathion (or contains both).
Do i need to say i am addicted to Oxandrolone.
The choice (there is no choice) is Anavar.
This is way:
1) no sides with Ox when taken for max 12 weeks
2) easy on the liver
3) Ox will cut you more up then Winny
4) if low on body fat, abs will show Ox attacks the fat right under the skin)
5) more easy on the hair
6) some do get acne, but this depends on the person (i don't)
7) HPTA will not shut down, but your test production will be less
8) strenght gains of Ox are superior to Winny
9) less mgr/week needed with Ox
Now take Winny:
1) most take the Winny-V and drink it
2) hard on the liver
3) hard on the hair
4) you get a more cut look, but not like with Ox
5) if low on body fat, abs will NOT show, unless you really are very low, but then you don't need Winny for that.
6) Winny should be taken for only 6-8 weeks max
7) watch out for "jaundice"
8) severe acne is a serious problem
9) HPTA will shut down
And:
Ox can be taken for more then 3 months if you watch your cholesterol level (high and good one will go down).
You cannot take Winny for that long.
Price for both is about the same, if you have the right source.
liver can easily be controlled with a strong liver detoxifier (no, not milk tistle, skip that one).
You need one that contains Calcium D-Glucarate or L-reduced Glutathion (or contains both).
Do i need to say i am addicted to Oxandrolone.
BloodyMule
New member
Jeff_ry's - That was incredible advise. Spoken to a T. One question however.. If I was goning to do an Ox cylce only. How much would you recommend per day. 30mgs / 50mgs. etc.. This would be my second cycle. I did dbol for my 1st. Also, should I bother with an injectable to stack with or not?? Thanks Bro..
Enigmaxxx7
New member
EXCELLENT post Jeff. I have always used Winny and LOVED the results but you may have just convinced me to try Anavar on my next cycle. I have never tried it but now I'm all pumped to add it to my next cycle.
Bumping for BloodyMule's question.
Thanx
Bumping for BloodyMule's question.
Thanx
BloodyMule
You can take Oxandrolone alone and a dose of 30-50 mgr should be ok. All depends, the most important (in my opinion) is the length of the cycle. But 40 mgr should be ideal because:
1) this will alter the liver less then high doses
2) your good cholesterol will thank you
3) run it if you can for at least 12 weeks
4) your HPTA will not shut down completely
5) you can take it during the day like 4 x 10 mgr every so hours, this is the best of course. Also when adding creatine, this is the only option.
6) but you can take it all at once as i do (i do get the same result)
On the net i did find an article (lost it of course) saying best was to take 80 gr for a month, then 40 mgr for another 2. Just a thought.
Taking it with another roid (Test) can be a bonus.
But all roids will shut you down.
Also with Ox no need for Clomid, Nolvadex, Arimidex, Liquidex.
You can take Oxandrolone alone and a dose of 30-50 mgr should be ok. All depends, the most important (in my opinion) is the length of the cycle. But 40 mgr should be ideal because:
1) this will alter the liver less then high doses
2) your good cholesterol will thank you
3) run it if you can for at least 12 weeks
4) your HPTA will not shut down completely
5) you can take it during the day like 4 x 10 mgr every so hours, this is the best of course. Also when adding creatine, this is the only option.
6) but you can take it all at once as i do (i do get the same result)
On the net i did find an article (lost it of course) saying best was to take 80 gr for a month, then 40 mgr for another 2. Just a thought.
Taking it with another roid (Test) can be a bonus.
But all roids will shut you down.
Also with Ox no need for Clomid, Nolvadex, Arimidex, Liquidex.
Thanks, anytime
and i will add this: after doing 50, 60, 80 mgr a day i went on for 120 mgr/day for 12 days. Dropping back to 80 mgr because gains stopped while taking 120, then dropping because i do not want to come off this year AND gains are still coming. That's way i think not the dose, but the length of time is more important.
and i will add this: after doing 50, 60, 80 mgr a day i went on for 120 mgr/day for 12 days. Dropping back to 80 mgr because gains stopped while taking 120, then dropping because i do not want to come off this year AND gains are still coming. That's way i think not the dose, but the length of time is more important.
BloodyMule
New member
Thank Jeff_ry's. So what your saying is for a safe, and long lasting result. Without the need of clomid etc.. and no loss of natural test. An Oxandrolone cycle is the way to go without stacking. I just wanted to confirm before I jumped into it. I'll be starting that in a few weeks. I'll keep you updated on results. Thanks bro..
Mule.
Mule.
badgermilk
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bump..........for carpin00
as for loss of natural test
Your own test production will also go down with Oxandrolone, but it will not be shut down. Nuts do stay on a decent size, bigger then peanuts.
If you are young, you will hardly notice anything.
If Clomid or HCG is needed one can always take that, but since gyno is out of the question, you have all the time. But i don't think you should have any worries.
Your own test production will also go down with Oxandrolone, but it will not be shut down. Nuts do stay on a decent size, bigger then peanuts.
If you are young, you will hardly notice anything.
If Clomid or HCG is needed one can always take that, but since gyno is out of the question, you have all the time. But i don't think you should have any worries.
Got me thinking...
Jeff_rys,
I am in the middle of putting together my next cycle. After reading your post you gave me a few things to think about...what do you think?
Scenario #1:
Sustanon......500mg/week.....10weeks
EQ.................600mg/week.....12weeks
Anavar..........40mg/ED............12weeks
Fina...............75mg/EOD.........6weeks(?)
Liquidex...... 1/4cc /ED..............10weeks
Scenario #2:
Sust........500mg/week......10weeks
EQ..........600mg/week.......12weeks
Winny.....50mg/ED.............8weeks
Fina........75mg/EOD............6weeks(?)
Liquidex... 1/4cc /ED..........10weeks
Bridge Anavar 20mg/ED
(I can also get primo)
Obviously, clomid post cycle 3 weeks after my last shot.
Goal is a solid 15-20lbs. At the same time to stay lean, and keep BF pretty low. My stats are currently 5'8'', 195lbs(give or take), at 8-10%BF. Do you see my goal possibe with this cycle?
M56M
Jeff_rys,
I am in the middle of putting together my next cycle. After reading your post you gave me a few things to think about...what do you think?
Scenario #1:
Sustanon......500mg/week.....10weeks
EQ.................600mg/week.....12weeks
Anavar..........40mg/ED............12weeks
Fina...............75mg/EOD.........6weeks(?)
Liquidex...... 1/4cc /ED..............10weeks
Scenario #2:
Sust........500mg/week......10weeks
EQ..........600mg/week.......12weeks
Winny.....50mg/ED.............8weeks
Fina........75mg/EOD............6weeks(?)
Liquidex... 1/4cc /ED..........10weeks
Bridge Anavar 20mg/ED
(I can also get primo)
Obviously, clomid post cycle 3 weeks after my last shot.
Goal is a solid 15-20lbs. At the same time to stay lean, and keep BF pretty low. My stats are currently 5'8'', 195lbs(give or take), at 8-10%BF. Do you see my goal possibe with this cycle?
M56M
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5cc's a day of liquidex? That is 20mg/day of anastrozole!!
What is the point? The only thing you have that will aromatize to any extent is the 500mg/sust. And 1/4 cc of liquidex should be more than enough to offset any negative effects.
Anyways, I don't think you can go wrong with either option. I really like winny, and I really like ox. If you can afford it, I think the ox is the better option.
Good luck.
What is the point? The only thing you have that will aromatize to any extent is the 500mg/sust. And 1/4 cc of liquidex should be more than enough to offset any negative effects.
Anyways, I don't think you can go wrong with either option. I really like winny, and I really like ox. If you can afford it, I think the ox is the better option.
Good luck.
H
hewlett
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hey i talked to one guy that took it for 20 weeks and he said the gains stopped after 12 weeks so not to take it past 12 weeks rest for 636 weeks and start again.
now that you compared it to winny how abotu primobolan? will anavar and primo together be good? I wanted to do winyn and anavar ogether but worried abotu hair loss but then again going to start on Proscar real soon with saw plametto
now that you compared it to winny how abotu primobolan? will anavar and primo together be good? I wanted to do winyn and anavar ogether but worried abotu hair loss but then again going to start on Proscar real soon with saw plametto
M56M
yes, your goal of gaining 15-20 pounds is reachable.
But i have no experience with Sust, Fina or EQ so i am not in the position to give you a decent answer.
I only used Deca, Winny, Primo, PGF2a and now Anavar.
PGF2a the most painfull drug, Ox the most amazing one.
Still when stacked the Ox should help you to show your abs, but all depends on how much fat you have around the waist. Furthermore the roids mentionned will not interfere if you will not bulk. If bulking even Anavar cannot help you much.
Sorry for not being able to help you more.
yes, your goal of gaining 15-20 pounds is reachable.
But i have no experience with Sust, Fina or EQ so i am not in the position to give you a decent answer.
I only used Deca, Winny, Primo, PGF2a and now Anavar.
PGF2a the most painfull drug, Ox the most amazing one.
Still when stacked the Ox should help you to show your abs, but all depends on how much fat you have around the waist. Furthermore the roids mentionned will not interfere if you will not bulk. If bulking even Anavar cannot help you much.
Sorry for not being able to help you more.
Jeff_rys,
You answered the most important part, i will not be on a bulking diet. And i can already see my abs at 9%BF so thats all i needed. Thank you very much for taking the time, this will be my first time dealing with anavar and from what i have read it should be an experience. Thanks again and take care.
M56M
You answered the most important part, i will not be on a bulking diet. And i can already see my abs at 9%BF so thats all i needed. Thank you very much for taking the time, this will be my first time dealing with anavar and from what i have read it should be an experience. Thanks again and take care.
M56M
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