Anavar or Primo?

[Siren]

Hi Ladies,

I will be starting my first cycle on Anavar in 2 weeks with a dosage of 10mg per day for 8 weeks. Have any of you ladies experienced any androgenic side effects from this roid or with Primobolan Depot? I've done my research and know that these are pretty mild anabolics with little to no virilizing effects in women. However, I am interested in hearing about the personal experiences of women who have taken it. What gains (strength/mass) have you experienced? Any advice and suggestions are appreciated! Thanks!

 

[sexkitten]

Hi, im actually starting a cycle of Avanar also next week and i had the same question. Im also taking clenbuterol.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

 

[smb_69]

var has virtually zero side effects - a bit of an oily skin, but that is it. My gf is on 10g / day and she loves it. Now primo you have to be carefull with. Yes it is mild, but it can cause sides - also, remember that it has a long 1/2 life, so even if you stop - it will be in your system for a few weeks. There is a great sticky on the forum by Realgains - read that!!

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Have you ladies read the 2 stickies at the top? They both give lots of info important before starting a cycle.

Anavar usually has few sides, but all sides are possible with it. Most people don't experience sides, but you must be prepared to bail out because YOU may get sides. Oily skin and pimples are most common. Watch for scratchy voice.

Anavar is a mild-gaining AAS. You'll likely gain 5-10lbs, but actual amount is diet and training dependent. No AAS is worth a damn unless your diet is CLEAN as hell and very high in protein. Training also must be well-thought out, cardio minimal. Make sure you rest AT LEAST 1 day a week.

Never done Primo myself, but smb is correct - the Inj version (Depot) has quite a long half-life so a quick bailing out is not really an option. If you see sides coming on, you are stuck with them until the drug clears the system - which may be a couple weeks. Meanwhile, the sides may worsen and become permanent. In fact, ANY time you have sides they may be permanent.

Clen I have never done either, but I have NO desire to. IMO, the OTC things (such as Thermorexin) are MUCH smarter and much more effective. A clean diet is the smartest thing you can do for losing fat.

 

[sexkitten]

I will be taking 10g/day of anavar along with liquid clen. I have stopped eating a lot o foods i used too, and have been doing extra time at the gym. I wanted to know if these two 'roids combined would still have a good effect without wokring out as much.

 

[sexkitten]

i wanted to know what Thermorexin was. i never heard of it, and what its uses are. thank you

 

[Daisy_Girl]

I will be taking 10g/day of anavar along with liquid clen. I have stopped eating a lot o foods i used too, and have been doing extra time at the gym. I wanted to know if these two 'roids combined would still have a good effect without wokring out as much.

First, Clen is NOT a steroid.

Nothing is going to help much without having a CLEAN diet and very SOLID training routine down. If you haven't already, I HIGHLY suggest you really read the Sticky at the top I put together on Physique Enhancement. It should outline when steroids should be considered and why they are not a cure-all. It also outlines what a clean diet consists of and why training is still necessary.

Steroids only MINORLY supplement a whole slew of things. They are an effective tool to ASSIST an already effective program that has been in place for a long time. They will NOT make up for a sloppy diet and/or shoddy training program.

Thermorexin is a thermogenic and appetite suppressant. It is available at the www.anabolicfitness.net store. Using the Discount Code afdiscount, it is VERY VERY reasonably priced.

Without knowing your stats and your diet, I am going to assume that Anavar and Clen are NOT going to be useful for you right now. Eating clean and training hard are MANDITORY before even considering these compounds. To not be doing these things while taking Anavar and Clen is silly and pointless.

For more help, please give us more information (height, weight, age, BF, training history, goals, and a sample day's diet). We are ALWAYS here for help and ideas! It helps to bounce things off others!

 

[Lady Godiva]

Anavar screwed up my periods for about six months after only 5 weeks. I was getting intense bleedings for no reason. Also I was not ready to hit anabolics, my diet was half clean, half junk. I should have waited longer but I'm still happy with the results. We learn from our mistakes.

So yes it's mild compared to what men can expect from some of their heavy cycles but I disagree when it comes to the side-free label. Just my personal experience...

 

[sexkitten]

im 19, 5'3'', 119. im also a dd, so much of my weigh comes from my chest.

my diet is basically this:

if i have breakfast its somethin very lite like fruit or just coffee.

usually for lunch ill have a salad with grilled chicken, or a burger with no bun and a salad also.

i am in school so the food isnt so great so thats basically my everyday.

i average 2 meals a day and if i have 3 thats a lot.

lemme know what u think.

 

[gingernuts]

You are no where near ready for either of the substances you mention. There are two major reasons here:

1.Your age - you should not be considering using AAS unless you have several years as an adult of training under your belt, otherwise you are just asking for trouble.Also taking it so you will not only result in physical sides but will mean gains later in life could be halted.

2.Your diet - if you take AAS you need a solid,clean diet or you will NOT see any gains.2 meals a day is not enough.It is not enough to live off and definetly not enough to train and gain from.Your body needs regular feeding of clean protein in order for gains to be seen.

You will make plenty of gains by firstly a good diet and then a good few years of solid training. This will have much less impact on your body(sides) and bank balance and give you a good base to build on for the future.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

You are no where near ready for either of the substances you mention. There are two major reasons here:

1.Your age - you should not be considering using AAS unless you have several years as an adult of training under your belt, otherwise you are just asking for trouble.Also taking it so you will not only result in physical sides but will mean gains later in life could be halted.

2.Your diet - if you take AAS you need a solid,clean diet or you will NOT see any gains.2 meals a day is not enough.It is not enough to live off and definetly not enough to train and gain from.Your body needs regular feeding of clean protein in order for gains to be seen.

You will make plenty of gains by firstly a good diet and then a good few years of solid training. This will have much less impact on your body(sides) and bank balance and give you a good base to build on for the future.

Good advice.

If you are for real, I will again ask you tyo read the sticky at the top I compiled.

 

[smb_69]

im 19, 5'3'', 119. im also a dd, so much of my weigh comes from my chest.

my diet is basically this:

if i have breakfast its somethin very lite like fruit or just coffee.

usually for lunch ill have a salad with grilled chicken, or a burger with no bun and a salad also.

i am in school so the food isnt so great so thats basically my everyday.

i average 2 meals a day and if i have 3 thats a lot.

lemme know what u think.

If you are serious about above - do yourself a favor - STAY AWAY from AAS!!

DG - I hope she is kidding around -

 

[Daisy_Girl]

DG - I hope she is kidding around -

I'm leaning towards that.....I'm thinking it isn't real. If you are for real, plese listen to the advice given.

 

[Siren]

Yes, sexkitten, I agree w/Daisygirl and smb. You'll have to clean up your diet, including eating more meals per day first before considering taking the var.

I am an active competitior in the fitness/figure arena and have been training for several years. Currently, my bodyfat is at 12%, train 4 days a week, and eat an average of 5-6 meals a day. Diet is clean with one cheat meal per week. I'm looking for an extra edge and hoping that var will do it for me. Thanks everyone for all your feedback! I'll keep you posted on the results!

 

[Daisy_Girl]

I am an active competitior in the fitness/figure arena and have been training for several years. Currently, my bodyfat is at 12%, train 4 days a week, and eat an average of 5-6 meals a day. Diet is clean with one cheat meal per week. I'm looking for an extra edge and hoping that var will do it for me. Thanks everyone for all your feedback! I'll keep you posted on the results!

Good luck to you, keep us posted on your results. But in the meantime, don't forget to stop in and post! All opinios, experiences and advice is needed!

PS....all this info you put in this post would have been GREAT at your first post. The more detailed the posts are (especially posts asking for AAS, diet or training advice), the more meaningful information you'll get.

 

[sexkitten]

im not looking to be a body builder just get a little extra *oomph*. i go to the gym 3-4 times a week, lift weights about 5-6 days a week, and try to do cardio everyday. i would like to know why u think this is a joke. i have done a lot of research, and i no its no gonna work a miracle but it will help a lil bit.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

im not looking to be a body builder just get a little extra *oomph*. i go to the gym 3-4 times a week, lift weights about 5-6 days a week, and try to do cardio everyday. i would like to know why u think this is a joke. i have done a lot of research, and i no its no gonna work a miracle but it will help a lil bit.

Don't even waist your money on a cycle of anything you need to eat 5-6 times a day your starving your body. How can you train with such little food in you? Who cares about weight it is meaningless get your bf% done that is really what is important if you are serious about a healthy life style.

 

[sexkitten]

well, i just finished my first 2 weeks of clenbuterol and i noticed a difference. i eat very healthy so i do no feel i am starving my body. i do train everyday. i am going to find somewhere to get my bf% done. what is around normal for a woman my size?

 

[superqt4u2nv]

well, i just finished my first 2 weeks of clenbuterol and i noticed a difference. i eat very healthy so i do no feel i am starving my body. i do train everyday. i am going to find somewhere to get my bf% done. what is around normal for a woman my size?

Average woman is 20-25%
Woman that train hard 19-13%
Woman that compete 12-8% (or less than 8 but I think it is rare.)

Trust me you are starving your body you should be getting in at least 1200 You are also killing your metabolism by only eating 2 times a day. Are you taking any protein supplements? If you are looking for muscle development it is a must to take in enough protein. I am not trying to be harsh just honest. Save your money on a cycle of Var get some protein supplements and tons of boneless skinless chicken breast and eat up.

 

[wend]

Peanut butter. Eat it off the spoon in between meals. You can keep it in your dormroom, and it's pretty cheap.

Speaking as someone in her late thirties (with kids), I have to say I think you're nuts to be thinking about taking var at your age. I took it for about 8 weeks (10 mgs/day) and I did experience some sides (acne, increased hair growth & swelling of my labia), AND some pretty severe morning nausea (as in, tossing my cookies for a few hours)when I didn't eat enough the night before. On your diet, I can only imagine how crappy you'd end up feeling. I was also tired all the time, even when I did eat well.

I did have some strength and muscle gains, but nothing that I couldn't have done naturally with a little more patience. Given the choice, I wouldn't do it again.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

im not looking to be a body builder just get a little extra *oomph*. i go to the gym 3-4 times a week, lift weights about 5-6 days a week, and try to do cardio everyday. i would like to know why u think this is a joke. i have done a lot of research, and i no its no gonna work a miracle but it will help a lil bit.

1) The food you eat is a joke. Nobody can get lean or gain muscle off 1-2 meals a day. Yes, you might lose WEIGHT but there is a huge difference between losing WEIGHT and losing FAT. Losing WEIGHT will result in looking like a flabby mess, and losing FAT will make you tight. You need to eat AT LEAST 4-5 times a day. The meals need to be high in protein, moderate HEALTHY fat, and moderate FIBROUS carbs.

2) You previously asked if Clen and Anavar would get you results without working out as much. Then you state that you know it is not a miracle, yet you seem to be acting like it will be.

3) You claim to be doing research, and I even have referred you to several helpful posts, but still no change in what you think you should be doing. If you have really done PLENTY of research, you'll KNOW that you HAVE to eat 5-6 times a day. ANd eating healthy is very different than eating clean.

4) Getting extra "oommf" comes from increasing intensity of workouts, cleaning up your diet changing your training program or even trying an ECA. It does NOT come from adding substances such as Anavar. That addition can bring about life-altering BAD results....if not used correctly and intelligently.

5) Maybe you have considered this step very seriously, but I have sen nothing to show me you have. It is ultimately your decision, and we are all here to guide you and to offer opinions. But this is something you have to consider SERIOUSLY before doing...not jump into. I don't feel like you have even CONSIDERED the fact that you may not be ready for this step - or that maybe you should change something you are doing. We all need help, we all need opinions, but don't ask for opinions if you aren't going to listen to them. That wastes everyone's time.

I hope you are being smart about this, nobody truely knows that but you. ANd don't feel like this is a personal attack - I just hate seeing people jump into something THIS SERIOUS without REALLY considering if it is truely the smartest thing for them.

 

[FitFossil]

...i do train everyday...

NObody should train every day. It's while you rest that all the repair work happens to your body. This brings you back to the gym stronger so you can have an even better workout the next time. It's the continual raising of the weights/intensity that causes you to get leaner and more defined. Training every day is like beating a dead horse, you'll never get anywhere training tired weak muscles. (Well, you will get a lot of extra cortisol (a stress hormone) circulating in your body which makes it hang on even harder to body fat, but that's a whole 'nother subject.)

This is why eating small frequent meals is so important. Your body needs a steady supply of nutrients to repair itself. It can only absorb so much at one time. Eating throughout the day keeps your metabolism higher and your energy levels up.

Finally, there is NOTHING MAGIC IN STEROIDS. All they really do is help your muscles to better assimilate protein. Better protein synthesis allows for faster recovery, and this translates into a faster return to the gym to train even harder and grow even bigger than you could without them. BUT If you're not feeding your body enough nutrients to begin with, you're shooting yourself in the foot on the very first step, making steroids pretty much a waste.