tboy72 said:im on week 8 right now...total will be 9....i LOVE it...i had better results then most ive heard of though.... it was my first cycle i put on at leat 20 lbs of lbm!!!!!!!!i used btg 1o mg tabs at 25 mgs a day...then added some papervar. no sides at all....strength gains were frightning! you will love it......try to get btg....the paper is good too!
cominback said:somebody help me out here whats "papervar"?
. Its var but has been made into paper. cant really explain it more than that, its a square of paper.scorpion_X said:I used var for my first cycle back in October:
10 wks - 30 mg / week papervar
* Used between 10-15 grams creatine / day and lots of whey powder to ensure adequate protein supply throughout the day.
In retrospect I think 8 weeks is plenty, most of the gains were made in the first 4-6 weeks.
Net Results: +13 lbs
Kept: ALL
Strength Gains: kept 90%
cominback said:i understand what it (papervar") and trust me mphowells ive done my share of cycles for years im comin off a 4 year layoff and this is all new to me. I was bascially looking if I should spend the $$$$for BTG or try this in comparison. and if so could someone email me to help out with direction for these office supplies.
tboy72 said:<snip>im on week 8 right now...total will be 9</snip>
<snip>i put on at leat 20 lbs of lbm!!!!!!!!</snip>
<snip>i started at 220 lbs around 16-18% bf...now 228 10% bf</snip>
napolean22 said:220lbs @ 16-18 :: lbm=180-185lbs
228lbs @ 10 :: lbm=205lbs
so you're saying you put on 25 lbs in 8-9 wks. Are you sure you were 16-18%bf before your cycle? How far are you post cycle? Are you still taking creatine...that stuff will make you hold water BTW? How long had you been working out leading up to your cycle...gains come quicker to beginners than someone who's been working out consistently for the past 3-4 years.
I'm not saying you didn't do it, I'm just saying its very unlikely.
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