Anavar for HRT?

[Stillgoing]

Has anyone used Anavar for HRT? I believe it is FDA approved although my doc will not go there. My thought is that it would be a good change for 3-6 months, and, would allow me to get harder. My wife is on HRT as well, and she would like to do it as well. Anavar has worked very well for me in the past.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Even though its said to be much milder than other 17aa's on the liver....whether you buy that or not(dose dependant obviously)....it seems that you would want to run a pretty low dose over that time period to keep the liver stress down no??
I know I have read on here somewhere that some of the HRT clinics perscribe it. With the whole TRT and HRT thing still being a taboo subject in half of the medicine world thats still in the dark ages I would bet you would be hard pressed to find a doc thats not specifically affiliated with a HRT clinic to go there. (holy run on sentence!)

 

[Zyglamail]

The R in HRT stands for replacement. Anavar is not a replacement for testosterone. That being said however its often prescribed for periods as an "add on" by some clinics. Personally ive adopted the theory that any AAS use is going to impact natural production so should be accompanied by at least 125mg/wk of test to replace your own. Our bodies naturally produce test, its there for a reason and always should be in my book.

 

[doublebicep]

Since anavar (oxandrolone) does not exist naturally so it techically is not for use in HRT.

Not true for deca (nanadralone) but it occurs in extremely small quantities. Deca is easy on the ole liver but can shut you down hard. Even with HCG, it still can be a real ball shrinker. lol...

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Deca is easy on the ole liver but can shut you down hard. Even with HCG, it still can be a real ball shrinker. lol...

You ain't shittin' brother!

 

[XMAN.]

did anyone tried 1 test cyp (dihydroboldenone) it has similar effect to Primo and much cheaper practically no sides and can be ran for women too , maybe it's a better add on to HRT than orals. i was thinking of 100-200mg Primo above my 250mg test e (hrt) and run it all year long or most of the year but even at that dose i still find it expensive, i used deca on many occasions for joint support 100-200mg and to benefit at the same time from it's anabolic effect and ran it for 3 months straight each time, a nice add on to hrt but still a bit androgenic and it aromatize as well so it added to the sides already existing from 250m test e (acne oily skin) so i limit it's use now just when i feel my delts r inflamed, but definitely gona try 1 test cyp , i was thinking of 1 ml = 200mg /w and keep it going all year long, any thoughts on that guys ?

sorry i have no intention to hijack this thread but since we're talking about hrt add ons i thought i would ask the question.

 

[Stillgoing]

The R in HRT stands for replacement. Anavar is not a replacement for testosterone. That being said however its often prescribed for periods as an "add on" by some clinics. Personally ive adopted the theory that any AAS use is going to impact natural production so should be accompanied by at least 125mg/wk of test to replace your own. Our bodies naturally produce test, its there for a reason and always should be in my book.

Good point. My previous doc, who was pretty progressive, a little too progressive for his own good, but very smart on this stuff had the view that Anavar was just as good, and, while I don't recall the technical back-up he had for it, felt as though it was more replacement of the hormone in whatever way would get your test where it needed to be, more so than the hormone specifically being test, if that makes sense.

My thought was that switching it up, like being beneficial on a cycle, would allow me to get leaner and harder than just the test, without raising my total test levels too significantly. Maybe I'm thinking too much!

 

[Zyglamail]

My thought was that switching it up, like being beneficial on a cycle, would allow me to get leaner and harder than just the test, without raising my total test levels too significantly. Maybe I'm thinking too much!

Looks like you already have great size, leaning up would be a matter of hitting some EPOC inducing workouts 3x a week, it will melt bodyfat off ya.

 

[XMAN.]

Good point. My previous doc, who was pretty progressive, a little too progressive for his own good, but very smart on this stuff had the view that Anavar was just as good, and, while I don't recall the technical back-up he had for it, felt as though it was more replacement of the hormone in whatever way would get your test where it needed to be, more so than the hormone specifically being test, if that makes sense.

My thought was that switching it up, like being beneficial on a cycle, would allow me to get leaner and harder than just the test, without raising my total test levels too significantly. Maybe I'm thinking too much!

in ur case i think u should do several anavar cycle on top of hrt, keep the initial test dose with ur AI of course if leaning out is ur concerns and add some anavar to the mix like 30-50mg 4-6 weeks on and 4-6 weeks off (on = off) do that for 3 or 4 times a year with some liver support and u'll be fine, but after all what really matters is ur diet and training , AAS r just the boosters.

 

[rockdoc]

Have you ever done anavar by itself before? It doesn't have the same androgenic kick that test has. For me, it kills my appetite and makes me very lethargic. Not everyone gets those sides. Also kills your HDL. If you're going to do it, I wouldn't recommend dong for more than 6 weeks at a time and I would include test with it. Anavar's great for strength, leaning out, and making old aches and pains feel better.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Have you ever done anavar by itself before? It doesn't have the same androgenic kick that test has. For me, it kills my appetite and makes me very lethargic. Not everyone gets those sides. Also kills your HDL. If you're going to do it, I wouldn't recommend dong for more than 6 weeks at a time and I would include test with it. Anavar's great for strength, leaning out, and making old aches and pains feel better.

Lipid Stabil is a must IMHO with any gear at any dose. The shit really works. Cholesterol, Triglycerides ect...its the real deal. Took my Total Cholesterol down 30 points a while back with NO change in diet. (fatty meats while bulking) Took my Triglycerides down to almost nothing. Its relatively inexpensive too.
With any oral you'd be a fool not to use it. (doesnt protect liver though)

 

[rockdoc]

Lipid Stabil is a must IMHO with any gear at any dose. The shit really works. Cholesterol, Triglycerides ect...its the real deal. Took my Total Cholesterol down 30 points a while back with NO change in diet. (fatty meats while bulking) Took my Triglycerides down to almost nothing. Its relatively inexpensive too.
With any oral you'd be a fool not to use it. (doesnt protect liver though)

What did it do for your HDL?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

What did it do for your HDL?

Everything was better than ideal. My doc gets on me if my triglycerides get close to 150. They went to like 30. As a comparison my bro takes meds for his and his level is like 800 !!!
I dont remember the HDL and LDL specifically.But I do remember the HDL was absolutely perfect and the LDL was way low. I normally dont have high cholesterol or tri's unless my diet is garbage with soda and lots of chocolate, pizza, ect ect.. and shit like that.
That is the one must for me when theres any exogenous test or anything else going on. If I could only have one thing during a cycle or hrt it would be lipid stabil. Test doesnt effect my BP at all or blood work but I use lipid stabil anyways cause usually i'de be eating extra red meat. Sometimes fattier stuff like 85 or 88% ground beef.

 

[Zyglamail]

For most people good fats (like those in meat) are not actually the problem, the problem is in the rest of the diet, specifically the recommendation to eat so many carbs and crap like HFCS. A lot of people eat whats called a paleo diet, largely meats and veggies, nothing processed and have great cholesterol numbers.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

For most people good fats (like those in meat) are not actually the problem, the problem is in the rest of the diet, specifically the recommendation to eat so many carbs and crap like HFCS. A lot of people eat whats called a paleo diet, largely meats and veggies, nothing processed and have great cholesterol numbers.

Right. I dont have any issues in this area. Unless ofcourse I am totally eating crap daily. Which does happen sometimes. Especially now being unable to train. But I like to heir on the side of caution whilst using any gear. So I use it.

 

[XMAN.]

Lipid Stabil is a must IMHO with any gear at any dose. The shit really works. Cholesterol, Triglycerides ect...its the real deal. Took my Total Cholesterol down 30 points a while back with NO change in diet. (fatty meats while bulking) Took my Triglycerides down to almost nothing. Its relatively inexpensive too.
With any oral you'd be a fool not to use it. (doesnt protect liver though)

may u plz post the components of Lipid Stabil at least the main ones just for comparison with other products.
thx

 

[burnthiscorpse]

may u plz post the components of Lipid Stabil at least the main ones just for comparison with other products.
thx

Lipid Stabil - Complete Daily Cholesterol Support $23.97 | Molecular Nutrition

 

[XMAN.]

Lipid Stabil - Complete Daily Cholesterol Support $23.97 | Molecular Nutrition

thx bro

 

[Stillgoing]

For most people good fats (like those in meat) are not actually the problem, the problem is in the rest of the diet, specifically the recommendation to eat so many carbs and crap like HFCS. A lot of people eat whats called a paleo diet, largely meats and veggies, nothing processed and have great cholesterol numbers.

Absolutely agree. It's not the fat that is the issue, its the fat plus the carbs. Low carbs = low cholesterol.

 

[Power36]

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this book explains some good stuff about just sticking to meat...as well Good Calories Bad Calories...my doc swears by it, and suggests everyone read these books....pound as much meat as you can be damed with the fat, no need for carbs really but if so hit the green veggies.....I havent done it strict yet, getting over some girlfriend breakup issues ha, hard to diet hard, but I did meat and veggies for two weeks and dropped 12 pounds nearly instantly,and Id been stuck at 245 pounds for 8 months no matter how much lifting and interval training, doing double sessions daily, etc....

Ive not kept it strict, but try to stick to meat and fish, Im not in keto for sure this past month, but I got dunk tanked at 7.5% BF today, about shit myself didnt expect to be that low....but trying to stick to meat and veggies mainly will work miracles....as well if you had the time like me to do double sessions, hard anaerobic conditioning in the mornings, sprints, sled drags, med ball circuits, versa climber, kettlebell stuff, versa pulley, etc....then come in at night and hit the platform lifts and rack hard...lots of cleans, snatches, squats/front squats, deadlifts, push press,overhead press, bench, jerks...and tons and tons of rows, chins, pulling....I went from 17.9% last May to 7.5% today sticking to that plan but not strictly, and even in that time period had a major quad tear, partially torn IT band, and minor tear in hamstring (all happened on same squat rep leg blew out)....I never read the Paleo books but essentially think its the same thing, Makers Diet, eat what God gave us....sticking to meat and fish mainly, veggies, and nuts...hit interval training hard, hit big compound lifts hard.....good shit will happen....

Ive yet to add any sauce to the mix but am curious what would happen....have some Masteron, extra T, Var, tbol, as well some old deca and winny...but dont want to mess with deca or winny right now...so might throw in some Mast and Var to see what it does at low doses...I dont wanna get any bigger! Just leaner!