Anavar for Female Volleyball Player

[CJWolford]

Ok, i'm wondering about the effects of a girl taking anavar while on a college varsity volleyball season.

she's the starting setter for her school, and she wants to lean up and add a little lean mass.

I told her that anavar would help her with her goals, and i'd buy it for her if she wants it.

She's 5'5 and weighs 135-138. She wears a snug size 6 or a loose size 8, so she's not overweight. I think she looks awesome, but it could help.

What i was planing was:
5 mg/day weeks 1-2
10 mg/day weeks 3-8

would this help her at all?
i figure this would be a good time to break it to her that i'm not exactly natural as well.

oh well, any info would be greatly appreciated . . .

CJW

 

[Hbone]

Bro get her diet straight first .Also what level D.1 or what does she get drug tested??? or is this an off season summertime choice??? If all that is taken into account anavar is a good choice.

 

[CJWolford]

ok, her diet . . . .funny thing about that, she just eats whatever. i mean it's healthy most of the time, but she does get the occaisional big mac.

she doesn't have a problem with weight really, i'm just wondering if it would be benificial at all.

i know it would disrupt her menstrual cycle, but would it affect anything, cause any soreness, or have any problems for afterwards?

But yeah, i could definately get her on a decent diet while she was one it.

high protein/low fat/moderate carbs but it wouldn't be all that clean

she's no d1, no testing.

 

[Temple]

Read the stickies at the top of the page - you should find them helpful.
You are trying to do it backwards - the diet and the training need to come long before the gear. If not the best she can hope for are some sides. What she is wanting can easily be achieved without ever touching an AAS. Your dosages are correct but it will be pretty much useless unless she has been training and eating correctly for quite some time.
I would also worry about the drug test issue as well.

 

[Gladiola]

I'm sure plenty of others are going to post this - but get the diet in check first & see what she can do naturally as far as LBM gain & loss of BF. May as well get the diet in check first - that's the most important thing.

Search & read the stickies regarding sides... but from what I've read - she'll be *less* sore on var & able to recover quicker & gain LBM faster.

 

[Temple]

How old is she BTW???

 

[smallmovesal]

ok, but aren't we all overlooking the fact that if she were to be drug tested she'd be thrown off the team?

oopsy someone else said that.

 

[CJWolford]

she's 20, and she doesn't get tested for the sport

i think it's a d3 school, whichever is small

 

[Temple]

I am now going to do my judgemental mother routine. I am the mother of a 20 year old. He has been SERIOUSLY bodybuilding for 4 years. Absolutely puts most folks to shame when it comes to discipline, form, diet - typical type A perfectionist. We have talked a bit about gear and he feels that he has at least two more years of natural development before he considers it. Granted girls mature faster than boys but 20 is too young to start messing with things like hormones IMO. Her goals are very attainable with a little hard work and discipline. Anavar is NOT a magic bullet and isn't going to do her much good unless she is doing the diet and training anyway. I am not a conservative when it comes to gear so please take my advice and DON'T. If you decide to do it anyway keep the dose very very low and make darn sure that what you have is really Oxandrolone.

 

[Iron Queen]

Temple... Sorry but I have to say I dont agree with you. I was 20 when I did my first cycle and LOVED IT. Granted it was a lot stronger than an anavar cycle but thats what "I" wanted. If she wants to do this, she's old enough. Do it. Just make sure you get her diet in check for a little while before hand so she can really benefit from taking the anavar.

--Iron Queen

 

[Temple]

IQ - if he was saying that she has been weight training for several years and was wanting to take the next step my opinion would probably be different. If and when my son decides to do a cycle I will do everything in my power to get him the best info possible and will support him in his choice. When you factor in age and goals that are naturally attainable I don't think it would be worth it. I would have responded differently if she were at a bigger college and an athletic scholarship was at stake. I do think 20 is young - that's what happens when you get old.

 

[CJWolford]

I don't know about how excited she really is, but she'll do it if it'll help her lean up and feel better when doing the sport.

I'm just going to be ordering a ton of var, so i figure it might help her to try it.

i'm only 19 almost 20. i started when i was 19.5. sure i should have waited, but i'm not trying to get huge.

and i'm trying to see how open she is to AS use. I really don't think it would be harmful at all, i'm just wondering how benificial it is.

it is someone i'm dating, and i want her around the rest of my life, so i'm not going to consider anything that would be harmful to her.

and yes, the ttokkyo stuff would be legit, i'd never consider getting generic for a woman.

 

[Hbone]

Anavar even at a low dose will help with athletic performance sides will be minimal just start her low 2.5 mgs day.

And if leaning out is what she is looking for then diet is of the utmost importance.

 

[Temple]

CJ - if you REALLY care about this girl then giving her gear without her knowing all the possible ramifications is just plain wrong. It is not something to be taken lightly especially by a woman. The way these drugs effect men and women are two entirely different things. For example I grew a lovely beard off of 10mg/d TT ox - no shit, just cost me $600 to get rid of it. It may happen...it may not but she is probably not going to be very happy with you if it happens to her.

 

[CJWolford]

i'll make sure she's read up on everything and knows all the ramifications.

nothing pisses me off more than uneducated AS users. She'll definately know all there is to know. so should i just start out at 2.5 mg/day and then move up to 5, but avoid going up to 10 mg of hte tt ox?

 

[smallmovesal]

10 is usually fine... i've read that 12 and even 15 have been taken by some women but most women stay at 10 max.

 

[wilson6]

I think the idea is rediculous. When I worked with our varsity women's volleyball team back in the early 90's, we had chicks that would blow most of the low-moderate dose users on this board away from a strength-power perspective and never used juice. They ate well and had a solid lifting program. These girls had more lean mass than some of the chicks at the gym that currently juice, and non of them were using anything. Even creatine wasn't around then. Sure they were a good genetic crop, but it still came down to diet and training. Besides, volleyball is a skill/team sport and AAS don't help your skill. Furthermore, it someone does suspect something, they might test her and the whole team could suffer, not just her.

W6

 

[Gladiola]

I don't know about how excited she really is, but she'll do it if it'll help her lean up and feel better when doing the sport.

I could be making too much of this comment, but it gives me the impression you & she both feel that it would make her life better all around... "make her feel better" - give her confidence?

Does she not think that she can get lean w/out gear? If she doesn't have confidence in her own ability to lean out without juice, than she needs to get that confidence, not get juice. Not sure if that makes sense.

I think w6 makes some great points as well.

 

[Temple]

CJ - can you get her on here so she can read up on this for herself??? I really think you are taking this way too lightly. I also get the impression that you think she will be more accepting of your "use" if she is using herself.

W6 makes a very good point about what could happen if anyone suspects. This whole thing could go really really bad for everyone - not just her.

Does she sing??? If so or if she likes her voice as it is then she should never touch any type of AAS. Anavar although very mild does effect the voice to a certain extent. On 7.5mg/d I routinely get asked if I have a cold by my family.

If the two of you are hell bent on doing this then do it safely. I would not recommend over 5mg/d as the potential for sides increases with the dose.

 

[Arioch]

Even if it is a division three school, if she competes in ANY NCAA regulated or US Volleyball Assocaiation sponsored tournaments, she can be subject to testing.

And aside from being thrown off the team, if she competes in a tested organization, she is cheating.

 

[Debu]

I could see AS for a sport such as Football but volleyball? I was a setter myself and somehow I can't conceive using AS to help. Tell her to do some finger exercises

 

[smallmovesal]

lol i am perplexed as a former volleyball player myself...

 

[CJWolford]

honestly, after reading everything there was about it, i don't think it would be a good idea.

she would know all the possible side effects, but it's a lot to risk.

i was just going to have a couple extra hundred anavar sitting around, and i thought it would be benificial, although not really needed.

I think she looks awesome, and even if she gained 50 lbs, i'd still be with her.

It's not like i thought it would really make her feel any better about herself, but i thought it might at least help her as far as playing goes and help her harden up.

she's perfectly fine with the way she is, she sees no reason to change, but she does get sort of sensitive when i tickle her sides or something, just like all girls do.

i think i'll just stick with the AS and try to get her on a clean diet. Since she's young, she can easily accomplish it with a clean diet.

Thanks for all the info, this really is an awesome forum

CJW