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billybobjones

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Hey yall, I have some of the red star primo and some BTG and denkall anavar. What doses should I do and how long should I do it. Also I was thinking about tossing in a little test, Mabey an ICN amp 250mgs every week. Im not a big guy about 175. Will I need anti-es with this cycle?
 
Anavar - 30-50mg's ED
Primo - 50mg's Ed or 100mg's Eod
Yes, you will need anti-e's

Anavar is suppressive to the hpta. Primo would be the lesser of the evils but it is still suppressive.
 
I always use a baseline test with my cycles. I would go with a longer-acting ester like Enan or Cyp at 500mg's a week. 200mg's/ml huh? Make sure it's real. There's a lot of fake Primo floating around. If it is real, I would run .5 ml Eod.
 
JA, if it is red star it is real. Its primo enathate 200 mg/ml. Good stack btw, but if I were your size I would do a test cycle and put on some size before I did it.
 
With respect to the anti-e question, I would have nolva on hand, but only as a precaution. I would not run it arbitrarily with only 250mg test/wk.
 
Since the conversion to e is so slight, you shouldn't need any anti-e's if the cycle is a reasonable length. You should have some post cycle supps and/or drugs to help with suppression, but lowering e isn't the answer since you shouldn't have elevated e from that stack.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Since the conversion to e is so slight, you shouldn't need any anti-e's if the cycle is a reasonable length. You should have some post cycle supps and/or drugs to help with suppression, but lowering e isn't the answer since you shouldn't have elevated e from that stack.
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That's not true at all since Anavar is much more suppressive to the HPTA than people realize, mainly you. I posted this graph that shows what happened after 5 days of ox @ 15mgs a day. It significantly depressed htpa by almost 40% in just 5 days!

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/84/8/2705/F3
 
billybobjones said:
Hey yall, I have some of the red star primo and some BTG and denkall anavar. What doses should I do and how long should I do it. Also I was thinking about tossing in a little test, Mabey an ICN amp 250mgs every week. Im not a big guy about 175. Will I need anti-es with this cycle?
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A test, primo, var cycle would be awesome if I could afford it.
I'm on a deca primo cycle now seeing good results.
Next cycle will have test in it.

As for the anti'es I started out with dbol at 20mgs for 4 weeks along with 300mgs primo and 350mgs of deca and I have had no sign of gyno and I'm into week 6 of 10. I would still get a box or 2 of nolv for safe keeping if you add the test otherwise the primo and var will not require it.
 
Juice Authority said:


That's not true at all since Anavar is much more suppressive to the HPTA than people realize, mainly you. I posted this graph that shows what happened after 5 days of ox @ 15mgs a day. It significantly depressed htpa by almost 40% in just 5 days!

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/84/8/2705/F3
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Sorry to jump in, but I haven´t read anyone stating the cycle wouldn´t supress HPTA...What I´ve read, and I agree, is that using anti-E DURING this particular cycle may not be mandatory due to the low aromatization envolved, unless it is a long cycle or he is very prone to e-sides. However, and that was said, HPTA recovery therapy will be necessary.
 
Nelson Montana said:



Once a jackass, always a jackass.
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FUCK OFF NELSON YOU PIECE OF SHIT. I was relying useful information backed up by facts (something you know nothing about). We don't need the peanut gallery. You're a fucking fraud Nelson. You plagiarize other people's work and you don't know shit about shit. Get a life and stop fucking with me.
 
Juice Authority said:


FUCK OFF NELSON YOU PIECE OF SHIT. I was relying useful information backed up by facts (something you know nothing about). We don't need the peanut gallery. You're a fucking fraud Nelson. You plagiarize other people's work and you don't know shit about shit. Get a life and stop fucking with me.
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Once a jackass, always a jackass.
 
lol now that's funny. Now when you take var and primo you need anti-e! No one said that it was not suppressive. We just said that he doesn't need fucking anti-e's during the cycle. If he's 250mg of test with it, then it's up to how his body reacts but I guess that he won't need them.

Juice and Nelson, I once told you that your were childish and maybe old enough to be my parents. Well, looks like you can't read my post. The fact that I have only 80 posts and that I'm learning english doesn't mean I shouldn't be read. Now guys you should really stop this little war, it's silly. My mom is dealing with those kind of silly arguments at work and she's a principal in a elementary school...
 
Juice Authority - Why are anti-e`s necessary with gear that does not convert to estrogen?

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Originally posted by Nelson Montana
Since the conversion to e is so slight, you shouldn't need any anti-e's if the cycle is a reasonable length. You should have some post cycle supps and/or drugs to help with suppression, but lowering e isn't the answer since you shouldn't have elevated e from that stack.

quote Juice Authority

That's not true at all since Anavar is much more suppressive to the HPTA than people realize, mainly you. I posted this graph that shows what happened after 5 days of ox @ 15mgs a day. It significantly depressed htpa by almost 40% in just 5 days!

Where does Mr Montana say that anavar doesn`t cause supression? He just says suppressing estrogen isnt the answer to not supressing test.
 
Krazykat said:
Juice Authority - Why are anti-e`s necessary with gear that does not convert to estrogen?
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Simple. Anti-s' like clomid, Nolva and Arimidex help you recover your natural production of testosterone (hpta).
 
Juice Authority said:


Simple. Anti-s' like clomid, Nolva and Arimidex help you recover your natural production of testosterone (hpta).
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but arent' you speaking of a post cycle therapy? Sounds to me like you want him to take the Anti-e's concurrent with his Primo/Var. At least that's the way I'm reading it.
 
genarr4 said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but arent' you speaking of a post cycle therapy? Sounds to me like you want him to take the Anti-e's concurrent with his Primo/Var. At least that's the way I'm reading it.
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I am/was speaking to post-cycle therapy. I never suggested using anti-e's during the cycle. It's not needed on a cycle like that. Maybe a low dose of Nolva (10-20mg's ed) if he decides to stack the Var/Primo with a baseline test and is estrogen sensitve but my suggestion on anti-e's pertained only to post-cycle therapy.
 
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