Anabolic Steroids for fat loss?

[atlantaholdem]

my stats

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28 yrs old
223 lbs
6ft tall
22 - 24% body fat
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diet (yesterday)
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meal 8am - protein shake and coffee
snack 11am - handfull of almonds
meal 1pm - turkey sandwich on wh.wheat w/ f.free cheese and can of lite pears
meal 3pm - half p-nut butter sandwich on wheat
meal 7pm - grilled salmon, sauted squash in olive oil and 1/2 cup brown rice
meal 9pm - glass of skim milk w/ half pnut butter sandwich on wheat.
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potential cycle
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wk 1-2 500mg test e., 400 mg deca
wk 3-6 250mg test e.
wk 3-5 200mg deca
wk 6 100mg Clomid a day
wk 7-8 50mg Clomid a day
*I'll probably run AIFM wk 1 - 5 and clen wk 6 - 8
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To begin, I had a knee injury about a year ago that put me on crutches for six weeks. Rather than hit gym, I hit the donuts instead and let my health spiral out of control. I gained over 40 pounds and lost a ton of strength. For the last four months though, I've been eating six

small meals a day and hitting the gym six days a week. I lift 3 times a week and cardio 3 times a week. I haven't missed any meals or workouts and I feel great. I've also lost 14 pounds over last four months and have gotten a hell of a lot stronger.

I've made a deal with myself that I want to do my first cycle after I get my body fat percentage down to at least 17%. I've made this goal because I know I'll have to eat a ton more calories during my cycle and don't want to get a bigger gut. After all,my ultimate goal to be able to see my abs for the first time and have a shredded upper body. I'm getting there but I have some pretty shitty genetics so I have to work like hell to lose weight.

My question is this, did any of you lose a lot of weight during and after your first cycle? Should I just wait until I attain my body fat goal or start my cycle right away? My thinking is that after the ton of muscle that I gain on my cycle, I'll be buring more calories around the clock.

Thanks bros.

 

[20ss02]

This probably isn't what you want to hear.....but I'm going to give it to you straight

At 22-24% BF you have a lean body mass somewhere around 170 lbs. I don't think you are big enough, or lean enough, to warrant AAS use. I would focus on your diet, lifting and cardio to get lean. The potential health complications due to your current physical condition just aren't worth the modest gains you would make. Get lean and build a solid base.....then consider if AAS are right for you.

 

[KD1]

I agree, wait until you are around 200@10-15% then think about AAS.

 

[rakasha681]

Since this is your first cycle, id stick with just the test E, and run it for 8-10 weeks. The amount of weight you lose is more determined by your diet, then the aas you use. You seem like you know what your goals are, and have set a nice plan, stick to it and you will be happy with the results. I would def stick with trying to loose some more BF before cycling, 17% would be a good place to start, but lower is better. The main thing that will affect that, is your diet, and cardio. Keep your diet clean, and up your cardio to 5 days a week, 45mins a pop and you should start seeing some more lbs shed off.
Keep hanging around the board, and learn as much as you can, by the time you drop down to 17%, you should be ready for your first cyle.
Hope that helps, and Good Luck!

 

[atlantaholdem]

Solid advice guys. Thanks. I'm going to continue down the road I'm on until I get to about 15% bf. Call it my goal oriented mentality, but I want to feel like I deserve to be on a cycle and I'm not using it as a crutch.

 

[T-Matt]

my stats

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28 yrs old
223 lbs
6ft tall
22 - 24% body fat
-----------------

diet (yesterday)
-------------------
meal 8am - protein shake and coffee
snack 11am - handfull of almonds
meal 1pm - turkey sandwich on wh.wheat w/ f.free cheese and can of lite pears
meal 3pm - half p-nut butter sandwich on wheat
meal 7pm - grilled salmon, sauted squash in olive oil and 1/2 cup brown rice
meal 9pm - glass of skim milk w/ half pnut butter sandwich on wheat.
-------------------

potential cycle
-------------------
wk 1-2 500mg test e., 400 mg deca
wk 3-6 250mg test e.
wk 3-5 200mg deca
wk 6 100mg Clomid a day
wk 7-8 50mg Clomid a day
*I'll probably run AIFM wk 1 - 5 and clen wk 6 - 8
-------------------

To begin, I had a knee injury about a year ago that put me on crutches for six weeks. Rather than hit gym, I hit the donuts instead and let my health spiral out of control. I gained over 40 pounds and lost a ton of strength. For the last four months though, I've been eating six

small meals a day and hitting the gym six days a week. I lift 3 times a week and cardio 3 times a week. I haven't missed any meals or workouts and I feel great. I've also lost 14 pounds over last four months and have gotten a hell of a lot stronger.

I've made a deal with myself that I want to do my first cycle after I get my body fat percentage down to at least 17%. I've made this goal because I know I'll have to eat a ton more calories during my cycle and don't want to get a bigger gut. After all,my ultimate goal to be able to see my abs for the first time and have a shredded upper body. I'm getting there but I have some pretty shitty genetics so I have to work like hell to lose weight.

My question is this, did any of you lose a lot of weight during and after your first cycle? Should I just wait until I attain my body fat goal or start my cycle right away? My thinking is that after the ton of muscle that I gain on my cycle, I'll be buring more calories around the clock.

Thanks bros.

If you must take AAS I would keep it simple. A test/masteron/AI would do wonders for your body.

Something like this would benefit you greatly..

250-300mg Test/wk
300-400mg Masteron/wk
AIFM 2 sprays/d
Glucorell and Sesapure to help with your insulin sensitivity
Oxycalm to help combat cortisol

Thank me later.

T-Matt

 

[abomb]

Do NOT touch steroids with the intent to lose fat. Thats not what they are created and used for. You want to be at about 10-13% bf before you cycle. Up your cardio to 5 days a week 45 minutes minimum. Your diet looks pretty good for fat loss. Just stick with it. If you want to speed up the fat loss then look into clenbuterol, T3, ECA stack, Glucorell, Sessapure.

BE PATIENT BRO! If you can make yourself wait until your bodyfat is in check then you will be SO much more happier with your steroid cycle.

 

[Cutt29]

DIET bro, save the cycle for when your sub 15%

 

[al420]

I bought some gear whiler still in the 20's on BF and waited till I got to 15% to start. What a reward!

 

[SgtSlaughter]

Congratz on your knee recovery and weight loss so far!!

don't do it.

I haven't touched it yet and I know it's going to mean so much more when and if I decide to later down the road.

lol... that sounded like I'm saving it for marrage

Definetly get your diet and training on point first... for a few years.

You want to spend money...

https://www.anabolicfitness.net/shop/

Amazing products, lots of bros and broettes around here will voche for them.

 

[shape]

If you must take AAS I would keep it simple. A test/masteron/AI would do wonders for your body.

Something like this would benefit you greatly..

250-300mg Test/wk
300-400mg Masteron/wk
AIFM 2 sprays/d
Glucorell and Sesapure to help with your insulin sensitivity
Oxycalm to help combat cortisol

Thank me later.

T-Matt

masteron--that is definitely a joke right bro??? did u ever research what masteron is used for--not being a prick but some of the advice thrown out here is just plain ridiculous


masteron is for contest prep usually when you are at least sub 8% BF above that you will see absolutely no benefit from using masteron

 

[Ulter]

Don't use AS for fat loss. You'll probably just get fatter.
You can use the AIFM though. I would also suggest SesaPure/Glucorell and Levorex. If you want a stim based fat burner then subsititue the Levorex for Thermorexin

 

[gjohnson5]

Ulter,
You said you were able to run 4 miles on eq but only able to run 1 (and feeling like death) natty. Wouldn't that be a good suggestion for him if he wanted to do cardio?

Don't use AS for fat loss. You'll probably just get fatter.
You can use the AIFM though. I would also suggest SesaPure/Glucorell and Levorex. If you want a stim based fat burner then subsititue the Levorex for Thermorexin

 

[juicedmick]

masteron--that is definitely a joke right bro??? did u ever research what masteron is used for--not being a prick but some of the advice thrown out here is just plain ridiculous


masteron is for contest prep usually when you are at least sub 8% BF above that you will see absolutely no benefit from using masteron

I was just about to post the same thing, people thatdont have a fucking clue of what theyre talking about, shouldnt be giving advice!

 

[CO B-man]

my stats

-----------------
28 yrs old
223 lbs
6ft tall
22 - 24% body fat
-----------------

diet (yesterday)
-------------------
meal 8am - protein shake and coffee
snack 11am - handfull of almonds
meal 1pm - turkey sandwich on wh.wheat w/ f.free cheese and can of lite pears
meal 3pm - half p-nut butter sandwich on wheat
meal 7pm - grilled salmon, sauted squash in olive oil and 1/2 cup brown rice
meal 9pm - glass of skim milk w/ half pnut butter sandwich on wheat.
-------------------

potential cycle
-------------------
wk 1-2 500mg test e., 400 mg deca
wk 3-6 250mg test e.
wk 3-5 200mg deca
wk 6 100mg Clomid a day
wk 7-8 50mg Clomid a day
*I'll probably run AIFM wk 1 - 5 and clen wk 6 - 8
-------------------

To begin, I had a knee injury about a year ago that put me on crutches for six weeks. Rather than hit gym, I hit the donuts instead and let my health spiral out of control. I gained over 40 pounds and lost a ton of strength. For the last four months though, I've been eating six

small meals a day and hitting the gym six days a week. I lift 3 times a week and cardio 3 times a week. I haven't missed any meals or workouts and I feel great. I've also lost 14 pounds over last four months and have gotten a hell of a lot stronger.

I've made a deal with myself that I want to do my first cycle after I get my body fat percentage down to at least 17%. I've made this goal because I know I'll have to eat a ton more calories during my cycle and don't want to get a bigger gut. After all,my ultimate goal to be able to see my abs for the first time and have a shredded upper body. I'm getting there but I have some pretty shitty genetics so I have to work like hell to lose weight.

My question is this, did any of you lose a lot of weight during and after your first cycle? Should I just wait until I attain my body fat goal or start my cycle right away? My thinking is that after the ton of muscle that I gain on my cycle, I'll be buring more calories around the clock.

Thanks bros.

Your diet is looking pretty decent and almost dialed in I would probably think about tapering off the carbs towards the night maybe getting rid of the bread for the sandwhich (Substitute with cheese especially cottage cheese at night for a great snack it slowly releases protien) and cutting out the rice (but that is not too bad) I try and cut carbs totally by seven and earlier if possible (Well always possible just have to have the will power and I sometimes say fuck it. You should be taking a multi-vitamin throw in B6 & B12, potassium, magnesium, zinc you definately should throw in some flaxseed oil its better than the oils in the nuts and it will help your eyes, skin and hair. maybe one teaspoon twice a day it tastes like ass though. Whatever vitamins your multi source totally covers you can delete the others listed

Turkey sandwhich I would switch to chicken sandwhich or dry tuna fish sandwhich because turkey has L-triptophane in it which will slow you down which is not what you want when cutting.

Instead of sterroids at this time you should get the ultimate fat burning kit from the AF store at the very least some T-rex (Big bottle) and Cardio breeze. You will lose weight in no time feel great all day burn fat naturally and easily and your skin oil and hair will be moist and the Trex will help you think super clear. Trust me on this and it will work. Then come back and visit us and we will hook you up and show you the next level of feeling even better.

 

[20ss02]

Don't use AS for fat loss. You'll probably just get fatter.
You can use the AIFM though. I would also suggest SesaPure/Glucorell and Levorex. If you want a stim based fat burner then subsititue the Levorex for Thermorexin

I agree with you in his case, but AS can play a role in fat loss for someone carrying more LBM. I'm the same height as this guy, but my LBM is more than 43 pounds higher. Just over 5 weeks ago I was at 19% BF and I started cutting naturally. The only supplement I was using was Trex. I was losing weight too quickly (and strength), so I started a cycle of Test Prop, EQ and Anavar just over 3 weeks ago (still on the Trex - also using AIFM). As of today I'm at 16% BF without much change in body weight. My strength is up, my LBM is up and I've lost almost 3" off my waist.

 

[Twoguns]

I agree with you in his case, but AS can play a role in fat loss for someone carrying more LBM. I'm the same height as this guy, but my LBM is more than 43 pounds higher. Just over 5 weeks ago I was at 19% BF and I started cutting naturally. The only supplement I was using was Trex. I was losing weight too quickly (and strength), so I started a cycle of Test Prop, EQ and Anavar just over 3 weeks ago (still on the Trex - also using AIFM). As of today I'm at 16% BF without much change in body weight. My strength is up, my LBM is up and I've lost almost 3" off my waist.

I agree that AAS can help with fat loss. My buddies brother-in-law got a script for cyp from his doc and the reason was "for weight loss"

 

[KD1]

I agree that AAS can help with fat loss. My buddies brother-in-law got a script for cyp from his doc and the reason was "for weight loss"

Sounds like a pretty cool doc.

 

[theprofessor]

masteron--that is definitely a joke right bro??? did u ever research what masteron is used for--not being a prick but some of the advice thrown out here is just plain ridiculous


masteron is for contest prep usually when you are at least sub 8% BF above that you will see absolutely no benefit from using masteron

agree... i have used masteron and it did very little other than make me look a little harder and vascular... purely cosmetic...

 

[Ulter]

I agree with you in his case, but AS can play a role in fat loss for someone carrying more LBM. I'm the same height as this guy, but my LBM is more than 43 pounds higher. Just over 5 weeks ago I was at 19% BF and I started cutting naturally. The only supplement I was using was Trex. I was losing weight too quickly (and strength), so I started a cycle of Test Prop, EQ and Anavar just over 3 weeks ago (still on the Trex - also using AIFM). As of today I'm at 16% BF without much change in body weight. My strength is up, my LBM is up and I've lost almost 3" off my waist.

AS burns fat. AS can also lead to an increase in fat. The difference is due to many factors but estrogen, which you took out with AIFM, and starting BF play huge roles in this. He doesn't stand a chance. So rather than talk about all these things in detail I paint with a broader stroke and say, "Don't use AS for fat loss, YOU'LL probably get fatter". Some day when you've answer this 100 times you'll take short cuts too.

 

[al420]

AS burns fat. AS can also lead to an increase in fat. The difference is due to many factors but estrogen, which you took out with AIFM, and starting BF play huge roles in this. He doesn't stand a chance. So rather than talk about all these things in detail I paint with a broader stroke and say, "Don't use AS for fat loss, YOU'LL probably get fatter". Some day when you've answer this 100 times you'll take short cuts too.

So they are good for fat loss right? j/k

 

[20ss02]

So they are good for fat loss right? j/k

 

[OMEGA]

Adrogens help burn fat for many reasons.

also the fact that you literally building slabs of mucscle will force you body to consume energy ( fat)

keep diet clean and trning sane and people will do well

if you eat like shit you look like it.

 

[mustang_00]

masteron is a derivative of DHT which aids in fat loss...