An easy to understand explaination for how steroids work.

[Andy13]

Andy--So these different books are read producing different protiens.

Winstrol and Test read different books and produce different protiens allowing different effects on muscle?

Some protiens allow for leaner more dense muscle growth?

Nope. AR activation is AR activation. It's like a light switch. It doesn't matter if you (deca) or me (trenbolone) turned it on. The end result is the same.

Some believe that some androgens are able to elict some kind of muscle growth without binding the AR first. I personally don't believe non-AR anabolism exists. There is a real lack of evidence that supports this. Although some disagree considerably. I'd like to see some evidence that supports non-ar anabolism.. That can be a whole new area of research.

Andy

 

[Galen]

great post, i just sent this to a friend whos wanting to start a cycle.

 

[win4life]

Andy--Hope this question is not to dumb

Why is it that Winstrol, EQ, Tren, etc are said to be good for keepable gains. I thought that the muscle growth from these was more dense or something than what comes from other substances.

I have read about the on-off switch, but do not understand why it is said that some substances are better for lean muscle mass over others.

Thanks for the info.

 

[blaster220]

Nice post! Hope to see more like this one

 

[Nathan]

Good post Andy. However, I'm familiar with transcription and translation but for some reason your whole metaphor had me all confused, not about the science but about how the library works. I'm thinking, "Wait a minute, you can remove books from the library. Or can you?"

 

[Andy13]

Good post Andy. However, I'm familiar with transcription and translation but for some reason your whole metaphor had me all confused, not about the science but about how the library works. I'm thinking, "Wait a minute, you can remove books from the library. Or can you?"

Can't take the DNA (books) out of the nucleus.. You can make copies of it though (RNA)

Andy

 

[PITBULL_187]

Good post


ARE YOU GOING TO LET THEM TAKE OVER!!

 

[Andy13]

Andy--Hope this question is not to dumb

Why is it that Winstrol, EQ, Tren, etc are said to be good for keepable gains. I thought that the muscle growth from these was more dense or something than what comes from other substances.

I have read about the on-off switch, but do not understand why it is said that some substances are better for lean muscle mass over others.

Thanks for the info.

The lean muscle mass gained is idential no matter what AAS is used. Obviously it is determined by dosage and AR affinity. Winstrol is said to create more "keepable" gains since the majority of the gains are not water and fat as with test and dbol.

This water and fat gained with test and dbol are easily mistaken for lean muscle gains. Arguably, they may even contribute to some strength gains. But after the cycle is over, the water is lost and so is some of the size.

Andy

 

[Big Johnson]

the majority of the gains are not water and fat as with test and dbol.

This water and fat gained with test and dbol are easily mistaken for lean muscle gains

Both of these sides are easily countered by taking an anti aromatase like arimidex. Its the estrogen that causes the fat gain, not the test or dbol itself. Even nolva is better than nothing.

Just remember to continue treatment several weeks after you discontinue the aromatising substance.

 

[Nathan]

Andy I wasn't questioning that DNA must remain in the nucleus dude. I was saying that with a REAL and ACTUAL library with real books they let you take those mother fuckers out of the library. This obviously isn't going to work. I think I'm going to have to give up on sarcasm. It's too damn hard to get across in writing.