am i fucked?

[bigslimfitting]

I was 235 natural before and then somehow just stopped going to the gym because i moved. So i just wanted to take a cycle get back to wear i was before and then prob not do it again, I'm going to keep most of my gains if i do pct propperly should'nt I. Like i know i can't be like it was when i was on it but i should be almost exactly where i was before shouldn't I?

 

[dabuffguy]

If you haven't been lifting for a while, taking steroids right off the bad is retarded. train for 4-6 months and then decide if you want to do roids.

how old are you? Height, weight, experience lifting and with roids?

 

[bigslimfitting]

25, 6" feet tall. not far away from abs showing, Used to lift hard and heavy. Just gave it up for like 2 years. I had a couple of consistant months here and there in that time. I do a pull wrenches and have other shit at work that is very physical. I'm bigger than your average guy when i do nothing but work. And I'm in week 5 so it not an option to wait

 

[GUARDIAN]

u r not fucked. u can get back to where u were naturally as was stated in the other thread.

 

[flajice]

how much do you weigh? Def AT LEAST 3 months natty

 

[ironcheif1984]

how much do you weigh? Def AT LEAST 3 months natty

He's already 5 weeks into a current cycle fella's. or did i just read that wrong

 

[flajice]

He's already 5 weeks into a current cycle fella's. or did i just read that wrong

ur right, I missed that, he kind of "slipped it in". I think your really just looking for assurance as ur already 5 weeks into cycle

 

[juggy54]

so what exactly is he asking being fucked about?

 

[hesnobradpitt]

so what exactly is he asking being fucked about?

?

Brad.

 

[rudy76]

I was 235 natural before and then somehow just stopped going to the gym because i moved. So i just wanted to take a cycle get back to wear i was before and then prob not do it again, I'm going to keep most of my gains if i do pct propperly should'nt I. Like i know i can't be like it was when i was on it but i should be almost exactly where i was before shouldn't I?

One thing I've learned over the years:

If you have to ask complete strangers if you're fucked - you probably are.

 

[eddymerckx]

One thing I've learned over the years:

If you have to ask complete strangers if you're fucked - you probably are.

+1

 

[flajice]

One thing I've learned over the years:

If you have to ask complete strangers if you're fucked - you probably are.

K to you, that was GREAT

 

[dabuffguy]

One thing I've learned over the years:

If you have to ask complete strangers if you're fucked - you probably are.

LOL!!!!!!

pretty funny.

 

[79steeler]

One thing I've learned over the years:

If you have to ask complete strangers if you're fucked - you probably are.

LMFAO.

 

[navigatorrs]

that was a good one!!

 

[bigslimfitting]

ya, i get what you mean. I guess I was asking can i keep most of my gains and continue to make gains naturaly after a cycle with propper pct?

 

[muscleup]

Best post all day...LMAO

One thing I've learned over the years:

If you have to ask complete strangers if you're fucked - you probably are.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

how much do you weigh? Def AT LEAST 3 months natty

Why?

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

If you haven't been lifting for a while, taking steroids right off the bad is retarded. train for 4-6 months and then decide if you want to do roids.

how old are you? Height, weight, experience lifting and with roids?

Why?

 

[bigslimfitting]

....I'm making good gains, the gut is almost gone. Veins are everywhere, i'm pumped with results. Just a mellow question, I don't intend on jamming myself with these fucking things all the time. Fuck I hate it and it was prob a dumb question cause i carried that weight naturaly before and didn't hit a platou before i stopped so what ever. I rock

 

[layinback]

Why?

doing anabolic androgenic steroids with

an untrained physique is like building

a brick home on a wooden foundation.


i trained 4 years solid before i touched

the stuff. during this 4 years i ate 6 - 7

times a day....clean eating too. did not

miss one meal!! trained like a fiend.

i built a STRONG foundation.


i've seen a lot of guys jump right into

aas with little to no foundation......

they ALL look mediocre at best

 

[littleb]

Why?

Simple your joints, ligiments, tendons---- going straight on the juice is going to increase your strength which in turn is going to put more stress on those little things i mentioned above,,, he will just be more prone to a tear or a rip somewhere as opposed to someone who hit the gym for a while natty b4 starting

 

[xrsist]

yes

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

....I'm making good gains, the gut is almost gone. Veins are everywhere, i'm pumped with results. Just a mellow question, I don't intend on jamming myself with these fucking things all the time. Fuck I hate it and it was prob a dumb question cause i carried that weight naturaly before and didn't hit a platou before i stopped so what ever. I rock

Good for you man. Glad to see it is all working out for ya. Yes you may lose some of your size but if you PCT the right way you will not lose as much. Keep it up brotha. Be careful as to not go too heavy right now. As I am sure you know your joints, tendons and ligaments are not ready for the explosive growth and strenght.

So be careful and life wisely.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

doing anabolic androgenic steroids with

an untrained physique is like building

a brick home on a wooden foundation.


i trained 4 years solid before i touched

the stuff. during this 4 years i ate 6 - 7

times a day....clean eating too. did not

miss one meal!! trained like a fiend.

i built a STRONG foundation.


i've seen a lot of guys jump right into

aas with little to no foundation......

they ALL look mediocre at best

I agree 100% but these noobs are saying train atleast 3 months or 6 months natty. I was trying to get their reasoning behind the short time frame they were given.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Simple your joints, ligiments, tendons---- going straight on the juice is going to increase your strength which in turn is going to put more stress on those little things i mentioned above,,, he will just be more prone to a tear or a rip somewhere as opposed to someone who hit the gym for a while natty b4 starting

I agree 100% read my reply to layinback. I just wanted to know how they pulled 3 months out of somewhere.

3-6 months seems hardly long enough to be natty to retrain your body that has been off for 2 years

 

[flajice]

Why?

He didnt take off 2 yrs completely, re-read the thread, he lifts for months at a time in between those 2 yrs, so 3 months consitent should be fine and much better than just jumping right in.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

He didnt take off 2 yrs completely, re-read the thread, he lifts for months at a time in between those 2 yrs, so 3 months consitent should be fine and much better than just jumping right in.

He said he took off for 2 years. traning every so often here and there is not trainging. 3- 6 months is not long enough to get your entire body back to where ya need to start.


Why do you think and what do you base it off of the 3-6 months is fine. We tll people all the time to train natty for 3-4 years before starting to reach your natty potential.

The kind of advice that he was given on trainging length is not wise.

It used to be the theory of this board to train long natty until yo reach your limit then juice. WHAT HAPPENNED??????

 

[flajice]

He said he took off for 2 years. traning every so often here and there is not trainging. 3- 6 months is not long enough to get your entire body back to where ya need to start.


Why do you think and what do you base it off of the 3-6 months is fine. We tll people all the time to train natty for 3-4 years before starting to reach your natty potential.

The kind of advice that he was given on trainging length is not wise.

It used to be the theory of this board to train long natty until yo reach your limit then juice. WHAT HAPPENNED??????

I agree w/ u, but being he was getting ready to jump right in, I was telling him to go AT LEAST 3 months, I mean it takes me that long just to get back in the swing of things

 

[eddymerckx]

doing anabolic androgenic steroids with

an untrained physique is like building

a brick home on a wooden foundation.

i trained 4 years solid before i touched

the stuff. during this 4 years i ate 6 - 7

times a day....clean eating too. did not

miss one meal!! trained like a fiend.

i built a STRONG foundation.


i've seen a lot of guys jump right into

aas with little to no foundation......

they ALL look mediocre at best

+1--and great analogy

 

[druncanwaria]

as if its going to be your one and only course LOL.. we will see..

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

I agree w/ u, but being he was getting ready to jump right in, I was telling him to go AT LEAST 3 months, I mean it takes me that long just to get back in the swing of things

I hear ya bro. Its just some people and not you specifically come on here and give out some real bad advice and people come here dry as a sponge and want to absorb as much info as possible.

There just needs to be consistancy on what is the bare minimum with everything here. Just sayin

 

[flajice]

I hear ya bro. Its just some people and not you specifically come on here and give out some real bad advice and people come here dry as a sponge and want to absorb as much info as possible.

There just needs to be consistancy on what is the bare minimum with everything here. Just sayin

I agree w/ u 100%, people giving out advice that they shouldnt be

In this case the guy was starting regardless, as he is 5 week in already,I would nver suggest what I didn in other situations

 

[bigslimfitting]

Thanks for the info out there. It's good to see guys looking out for each other. The reason i jumped on it as quick as i did was I was going to a job up north only for a month or 2 and they have buffet for everything. I ate and ate as much as i could that i figured if i was going to juice wy not if I can eat all this shit for free. I ate health as i could for the most part and still had shakes. That was a good point to bring up about the tendens.

Hey. I've always had small lumps under my nips. Since i grew hair on my nuts i noticed them. Small kinda fatty lumps. Anyone else have those? You can't see them but can feal them. And now how the fuck do i go about telling if i need armidex are not. I'm not bloating but i nip kinda felt itchy so i popped a armidex cause i got spooked. What's your thought on this?

 

[JLowe02]

Thanks for the info out there. It's good to see guys looking out for each other. The reason i jumped on it as quick as i did was I was going to a job up north only for a month or 2 and they have buffet for everything. I ate and ate as much as i could that i figured if i was going to juice wy not if I can eat all this shit for free. I ate health as i could for the most part and still had shakes. That was a good point to bring up about the tendens.

Hey. I've always had small lumps under my nips. Since i grew hair on my nuts i noticed them. Small kinda fatty lumps. Anyone else have those? You can't see them but can feal them. And now how the fuck do i go about telling if i need armidex are not. I'm not bloating but i nip kinda felt itchy so i popped a armidex cause i got spooked. What's your thought on this?

that sounds like gyyno, but i really cant offer the best advice on treatment, as ive never had to deal with it. at least not yet...but letro and nolvadex seem to work well, but im unsure as to the dosages of each.

 

[bigslimfitting]

Can it be just fat? I'm not a fat ass, no abs though. I've just always had it there. Also all i have is armidex, in little gell caps. I don't know what mg they are. (yeah i know i should know) but i was going to take one every second day is what I hear. Any more help you guys can offer? .....but i don't know if i just getting paranoid though. Like they've always been there, my left nip just kinda feals weird is why i took it.