Am I becoming a juicehead?

[Dr.X]

After 8 years of natural training I decided to try my first cycle. Let me walk you through my experience. First I decided to do 400mg/wk of cyp and 300mg/wk of eq. Then I said screw it and decided to try 500 and 400 a week instead. But wait - I'll just do 250mg cyp and 200mg eq every three days to keep my injections consistant. Three weeks in, I'm not getting the results I expect so decide to throw in 75mg of fina daily. Remember this is my first cycle. Is this ok? Now I'm planning my second cycle of dbol, deca, primo, and winny (I won't bother outlining the specifics now). Am I getting carried away here? Should I slow down or what?

 

[Realgains]

Dude 500 of cyp and 400 of eq is loads for a first time...give it some more time. Are you eating enough???Sleeping enough??

 

[Dr.X]

I think so - I'm eating ~3500-4000kcal/day (~300g protein) and getting plenty of sleep. WTF?

 

[THE BOUNCER]

After 8 years of natural training I decided to try my first cycle. Let me walk you through my experience. First I decided to do 400mg/wk of cyp and 300mg/wk of eq. Then I said screw it and decided to try 500 and 400 a week instead. But wait - I'll just do 250mg cyp and 200mg eq every three days to keep my injections consistant. Three weeks in, I'm not getting the results I expect so decide to throw in 75mg of fina daily. Remember this is my first cycle. Is this ok? Now I'm planning my second cycle of dbol, deca, primo, and winny (I won't bother outlining the specifics now). Am I getting carried away here? Should I slow down or what?

You did that much gear and your not getting good results? I would say your in the wrong sport than brotha.

 

[OMEGA]

golfing is always nice






maybe your gear is fake?


A "freind" of mine responded very well of only 15 mgs of dbol and, a couple of hundred mgs of primo a week.......and he does not have the best genetics in the world.

so your stuff may be underdosed or fake

 

[OMEGA]

plus my freind went through 2 other guys before he found legit stuff........and he did his studying to find out what it takes to spot fakes......


some of the fakes out there are highly sophisticated.....

so do your homework.

also another thing stay away from vet products, or cheap mexican ones,

if your going to do it, do it right, and find human grade quality stuff,

also china mans stuff, and tt***yo stuff is highly overated

in my rookie opinion, so don't shell over the doe for it

 

[Dr.X]

I think I'm in the right sport, I reached ANBC Nationals naturally and did well in some MuscleMania shows. The cyp and eq is **'s. I have read posts of other people being disappointed with his cyp lately and it's probably too early to tell with the eq. I threw in the fina in case either is fake or underdosed.

 

[joey10j]

I think the fina will do your body good. it should help out a little incase your other gear is bunk. that's why i'm doing that too around week 5 of my cycle and throwing in some zambons. china man is not worth taking the risk on

 

[Beezers]

You're getting far too carried away. Try ONE drug. Use testosterone only on your next cycle and don't rely on the drugs. There's no need for eight different drugs in one cycle. They all bind to the androgen receptor in the end so just use one.

 

[ironbarbarian]

I think I'm in the right sport, I reached ANBC Nationals naturally and did well in some MuscleMania shows. The cyp and eq is **'s. I have read posts of other people being disappointed with his cyp lately and it's probably too early to tell with the eq. I threw in the fina in case either is fake or underdosed.

I think you got ahold of a bad batch. Bro just finish your cycle. Let me recommend you a product that has really helped me. If testosterone is what you want get Omnadren by Jelfa. its a SICK steroid. I have tried ttokkyo cyp, aratest from aranda, testoviron from schering, some cyp from Argentina and sostenon.

Omnadren blows all these tests bro, so far best testosterone I have ever tried and is top notch quality. Try some if you can get it.

 

[mlomker]

Three weeks in, I'm not getting the results I expect so decide to throw in 75mg of fina daily. Remember this is my first cycle. Is this ok?

Three weeks isn't enough time for cyp to really start making a difference. Omna didn't hit me hard until week 5. I gained a few pounds of water right away, but the huge gains are in the second half of most cycles. Be patient.

The second question would be what your expectations are/were. The closer you are to your natural peak (which you probably are as a competitor) the less low doses of juice will do for you. I started at 175lb so a 20 lb. gain wasn't that difficult. Competitors can use a lot of juice for just 3-5 lbs per cycle.

 

[Quadsweep]

As long as your gear is real your original plan would have been fine, and cheaper! It takes about 3 weeks for gear to even start really kicking anyway so relax a bit and see what happens. Patience Grasshopper!

Peace

 

[serge]

you need to eat AT LEAST 4000cals per day when bulking, get plenty of rest, dont overtrain and give the drugs the time to reward you. dont rush this

 

[vitor97]

Hmm

It has only been 3 weeks, none of these drugs will kick in until atleast week 4, maybe 5. Slow down...

 

[Primo57]

Besides the possibility that you have fake or underdosed gear, you should remember that some people simply have a longer activation time to steroids. This can be for a variety of cellular reasons - although I personally think it is due to the number of
co-activators produced in your target tissue (muscle). Some people simply have more, while some folks have less - thus for them it takes a little while longer for the injectibles to kick in. For me, it usually takes 4 weeks to get that feelin'. Give it some time bro. BTW; I agree about the Omnadren - good stuff!