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Already feeling like a pin cushion!!

I have actually started to like it. I look forward to sticking myself every night after I go to the gym.

I hit a nerve in my quad last night but just said fuck it and pushed it through and injected. Quite the feeling of accomplishment...
 
havoc said:


Ahh, there is nothing like childlike simplicity in the morning.
http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?threadid=108109&highlight=havoc
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Read it when you first posted it. What can I say? I'm a simpleton.

I agree with Zyg:

"Im stronger after a couple cycles than I was prior, larger too and I have not lost it. If your use AAS to take yourself beyond what your body can maintain without AAS, then yes, of course you will lose what you gained if you stop. However, if you use it to take you to that transition point you should be fine. You also have to take into account many losses in mass and strength come to the injuries and sickness that is unavoidable in life. Tossing the iron is a lifestyle, not path from point A to point B."
 
Havoc,

I read your post on the anabolic board, and while you are correct to an extent, you are not fully correct.

I do respect your point of view, and agree to a point.
 
Needle and Gorilla, I'm bored this morning, I was just kidding, and I would be a hypocrite by saying that and fully meaning it because I contemplate a first cycle every day and may or may not go through with it, my fault. peace to both
 
havoc said:
Needle and Gorilla, I'm bored this morning, I was just kidding, and I would be a hypocrite by saying that and fully meaning it because I contemplate a first cycle every day and may or may not go through with it, my fault. peace to both
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I'll get over it.

Fina + Test = Awesome

My $0.02
 
Days of the Tantric said:
havoc That was an excellent thread. Especially the flame on beefjerky. You have your opinion, but kept an open mind to other ideas and philsophies. It provided for a wide range of viewpoints, which is always a good thing. That's the way we educate ourselves. Close minded individuals are doomed to repeat their failures ad infinitum.
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Thank you sir!
 
HAvoc,

No problem. There are pro's and cons to AS. Making gains permanent is not always possible, but maximizing what you can keep from each cycle is what your trying to do. Last cycle I gained 32 lbs of muscle on an 18 week cycle, and have kept all but 4 lbs. This cycle I only want to gain about 5-8 lbs of muscle, but want to drop to 5%-7% bf.
 
needleboy said:
HAvoc,

No problem. There are pro's and cons to AS. Making gains permanent is not always possible, but maximizing what you can keep from each cycle is what your trying to do. Last cycle I gained 32 lbs of muscle on an 18 week cycle, and have kept all but 4 lbs. This cycle I only want to gain about 5-8 lbs of muscle, but want to drop to 5%-7% bf.
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See, results like that get me hype. Good luck!
 
Oh man, the most harcore possible of course. You know! Anavar and creatine with a little GH maybe. Yes, I'm going all the way.
 
havoc said:
Oh man, the most harcore possible of course. You know! Anavar and creatine with a little GH maybe. Yes, I'm going all the way.
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Don't waste your cash on GH until you stop responding to AS...

Oh wait. Anavar and creatine? LOL

I get it :)
 
Oh yeah, an on the creatine. It is important to take so much that the expolsive runny shits you get, actually makes your colon explode!!
 
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