i dunno, for a long time af sold ala and said it was the best thing ever, now they are playing a new chime and saying ala is crap and only r-ala is good........ so dunno, i use ala at 600mg a day, along with 3g thistle 3g fish oil, 10.8g saw palmento. im on 50mg dbol a day, thats my only oral, then im on 500mg test eth and 500mg eq a week.