almost time, some final thoughts

[phatty123]

cycle#1
sust 250mg weeks 1-8
deca 200mg weeks 1-8
eq 200mg 8-10

the sust i will split in to 2 injects per week. Should I split the deca up to 2 and inject both the same night.

followed by clomid or hcg for 2 weeks
nolva on hand

cycle#2
sust 250mg weeks 1-8
dbol 20mg per day weeks 1-4
eq 200mg 6-10

followed by clomid or hcg for 2 weeks
nolva on hand

Just added

cycle#3
sust250 1-8
eq 200mg 4-10
followed by clomid or hcg 2 weeks

Those are the 2 cycles i am debating over. The only question i really have i think is if i should run eq longer? If you guys think eq should be run longer should i stop the deca if i go with the first cycle around week 6 and run 6-10 on eq?


Btw this is my first cycle stats 162 5'7" lifting for over 5 years, 21yrs old. I want to stick to 200-250 inject not higher i believe i should get good gains from that at my age and since its my first cycle. I have researched it and there is alot of support for moderate dosages around 200s especially for first timers.

 

[theoak01]

I personally think that you dont need two injectables in your first cycle here is one option

sust 250mg wk1-8
dbol 30mg wk 1-5
nolva on hand incase of gyno
clomid after

milk thistle and ala during for your liver

and if you still think you need more why not up the dose to 500mg test,eq really isnt all that effective until atleast 400mg

that is a pretty solid first cycle and if your shit is together you should put on some decent size

 

[lincoln]

OAK is right on.

 

[phatty123]

Ohh should i through some winny tabs in towards the end? And if i start to retain too much water what would work best with this cycle.

 

[theoak01]

there really isnt a need to add winny into the mix,but I suppose if you really want to you could stop dbol after wk4 then at wk 7 start winny at 50mg ed run until clomid starts,But personally I would leave it the way it is

and for water,just do cardio a few times a week,drink a ton of water aswell Liquidex will do a good job if you can afford it,if you can I hate you,j/k

you will hold water no doubt about it,just deal with it its only temporary
good luck and keep us posted on your results,I was planning a cycle but now I am working night 4 days a week and am so fucking tired,so I guess I will wait till september