All you Deca bros, Please advise

[blastingthru]

All right fellas, this is what I am planning for my first cycle. I have been lifting for over six years and have spent the last year or so learning and trying to plan a cycle. This is what I have come up with:

8 Weeks: Deca and Dbol

Goals: Increasing strength and putting on a little mass

Weeks 1-4, maybe 5: Thai Dbol, 20mg/day

Weeks 1-8: Deca, 300mg/wk

Running Armidex throughout, with Nolva on hand

Weeks 9-10: Clomid 300mg/day 1, week 9 100mg/day, week 10 50mg/day

Using: 23g, 1.5 inch pins


A few questions: ( I did do a search, but didn't come up with any definitive answers)

1) Should I run the Deca at 300mg weeks 1-6 and then taper down to 200mg weeks 7-8? I understand that I need to taper it down, but at what rate?

2) The guy I got my Deca from suggested that I inject every 5 days, but from what I have read, it seems as if most inject once a week. Once a week or every 5 days?

3) Any thoughts on how I should run the Armidex and at what strength, some say a 1/2 tab/day, others 1/4 tab/day?

Yes, I know that many of you are going to suggest Test, but at this point I am not going to run that now. Maybe in future cycles.

Any helpful thoughts are much appreciated and I understand that with gear, it is very personal because every person reacts differently, but any guidance will be very helpful.

Thanks for the help!

 

[macDbol]

you should see something off 20mg dbol, your cycle looks fine, i would do deca for 10 weeks though, but if u insist on doing 8 get some winny pills or anavar if u got the cash. take ir while the deca leaves your system(3 weeks after your last deca shot), this way u can jump right into clomid

and about the arimidex i would do 1mg eod if im super concerned with bloat

 

[jacopomiller]

I believe that Deca tapers itself as it leaves your system. You may only need .5mg of aimidex every other day if at all. Why not see if you need it first?

 

[La-Ru]

I believe that Deca tapers itself as it leaves your system. You may only need .5mg of aimidex every other day if at all. Why not see if you need it first?

Yes don't taper down that is a waste of time. 300mg once a week will be fine. D-bol weeks 1-4. A-dex should help get you some what vascular and solid so I would run it .5mg eod the whole way. With out running test your really going to need to jump start yourself pick up some hcg. 23g 1.5in pins? depends where your injecting, glutes fine, quads don't use the full 1.5in.

 

[blastingthru]

My fuck up, I knew that I'm supposed to start Clomid 3 weeks after my last shot. I just fucked up my post, but thanks for pointing that out.

I am planning on injecting into my glutes and I understand not to shove the entire needle in, just in case it breaks off. I also know about aspirating too.

I won't taper the deca then, and i am looking to start my cycle in about three weeks (just waiting on the rest of my anti-e's to get here)

As always thank to all you guys for the advice and I will hopefully be posting some decent results in the spring!

I am really starting to get jacked!!!

Thanks again!

 

[Spectre]

Personally I would a token amount of test just for the deca dick and sex drive. Maybe 200 to 250 a week in test. I'm not trying to do the more is better thing here, 250 test / 300 deca with 20mg of Dbol is well within the safe and sane limit. Your call, no pressure.

 

[macDbol]

My fuck up, I knew that I'm supposed to start Clomid 3 weeks after my last shot. I just fucked up my post, but thanks for pointing that out.

I am planning on injecting into my glutes and I understand not to shove the entire needle in, just in case it breaks off. I also know about aspirating too.

I won't taper the deca then, and i am looking to start my cycle in about three weeks (just waiting on the rest of my anti-e's to get here)

As always thank to all you guys for the advice and I will hopefully be posting some decent results in the spring!

I am really starting to get jacked!!!

Thanks again!

it wont break off

 

[blastingthru]

I was waiting for someone to suggest some Test; don't get me wrong, I am not flaming you for it. I appreciate all suggestions. You guys have a valid point in suggesting Test, but I think that the general concensus is that it has a little harsher sides, although it does pack on the mass As we know, everyone reacts differently; I will just give this cycle a shot and keep you posted as to my results.

As always, your help and guidance is much appreciated.

Oh and for all you other newbies like me out there; it took me almost a year to learn and piece together a cycle so do the vets here a favor and quit asking repetitive, stupid questions like "what is Clomid for?" or "how do I get steroids?" Try using the search button!

See ya

 

[Frackal]

Test is not going to have harsher sides than dbol bro...the opposite in fact...you may find some benefit from doing a replacement dose of test, perhaps an amp of sust every 2 weeks and then running that a few weeks past the deca....that is what I am going to try anyway

 

[Big Anaconda]

blasting thru

Hey bro, i am currently using a test enanthate/dbol cycle, the reason im not using deca is because im far more worried about the sides deca gives you. It will hsut down your hpta harder than test will and for some reason a freind oif mine found acne more severe with deca than test. I would be interested to know what other bro's think about this.

 

[genarr3]

My first cycle was 200mgs/week of Deca and some Dianabol in the begining. I loved it and the low dose really didn't effect my sex drive too much as I can remember<long time ago>.
No need to taper.

 

[blastingthru]

One other thing guys, Should I inject the Deca every 5 days or once a week?

Thank you once again, the big day is getting closer and closer...

 

[Spectre]

I would always reccomend more frequent injections when possible and logical. Every 5 days IMHO would be better.

Frack had some great input for you. However at these dosage I believe talking about sides would be splitting hairs. Good luck

 

[diet4ever]

If you do deca, I recommend you to include hcg into your (post)cycle. Look at the posts off lawnsaver how to use hcg.

 

[sergio]

blasting thru

Hey bro, i am currently using a test enanthate/dbol cycle, the reason im not using deca is because im far more worried about the sides deca gives you. It will hsut down your hpta harder than test will and for some reason a freind oif mine found acne more severe with deca than test. I would be interested to know what other bro's think about this.

Stop spreading BS. Generally,Deca does NOT give you more sides than test. Why is everyone pushing test on the guy?
His proposed 1st cycle sounds fine..

 

[40butpumpin]

All right fellas, this is what I am planning for my first cycle. I have been lifting for over six years and have spent the last year or so learning and trying to plan a cycle. This is what I have come up with:

8 Weeks: Deca and Dbol

Goals: Increasing strength and putting on a little mass

Weeks 1-4, maybe 5: Thai Dbol, 20mg/day

Weeks 1-8: Deca, 300mg/wk

Running Armidex throughout, with Nolva on hand

Weeks 9-10: Clomid 300mg/day 1, week 9 100mg/day, week 10 50mg/day

Using: 23g, 1.5 inch pins


A few questions: ( I did do a search, but didn't come up with any definitive answers)

1) Should I run the Deca at 300mg weeks 1-6 and then taper down to 200mg weeks 7-8? I understand that I need to taper it down, but at what rate?

2) The guy I got my Deca from suggested that I inject every 5 days, but from what I have read, it seems as if most inject once a week. Once a week or every 5 days?

3) Any thoughts on how I should run the Armidex and at what strength, some say a 1/2 tab/day, others 1/4 tab/day?

Yes, I know that many of you are going to suggest Test, but at this point I am not going to run that now. Maybe in future cycles.

Any helpful thoughts are much appreciated and I understand that with gear, it is very personal because every person reacts differently, but any guidance will be very helpful.

Thanks for the help!

300mg 1-6 to 200mg 7-8 is fine. As far as timing, every 4 days is what I've always done. In fact, every Monday and Friday has always worked for me. Arimidex only weeks 1-5 is necessary IMO, try 1/2 tab ed and observe any bloat. If you're still getting quite bloated try 1 tab ed. I don't use Clomid so I don't have any suggestions on it. I would also suggest HCG starting week 12 for two solid weeks at 500iu ed. Try to eat BIG but also clean, low sodium will also help you IMO as well as lot of good clean water! Seems like a decent cycle to me, all the best with it!

 

[blastingthru]

Thanks for the help and guidance. This is why this board is such a great asset to people that are into bettering themsleves and their physique. It's because of all of the experienced bros who are willing to offer their advice to someone who has a pretty good idea of what to do, but it just needs some fine tuning.

Good Luck to all of you guys as well!

 

[bigtex1125]

back to Anaconda's comment earlier on the acne, i had the same thing happen to me with deca, although if i was doing a d-bol and test cycle, i think i'd be cheating myself if i didn't throw in the deca. by the way, tapering deca is not necessary, deca tapers itself. good luck on your first cycle blastingthru. even without test, you're gonna see some good results.

 

[jerkbox]

helpful post....i am researching myself and considering my first cycle....and so far I've been looking at a similar plan....i still have a lot to learn however....