All Thyroid Meds (T3 etc) Catabolic?

[WinstonChurchill]

Guys,

I am currently a natty but looking to do my first cycle. I had to go for some routine blood work the other day so asked them to test my thyroid, test levls etc whilst I was having blood taken.

Anyways, the doc has since said he may put me on some thyroid meds (but didnt specify which yet, as its not definite) for a possible underactive thyroid.

My question is, are all thyroid meds as catabolic as cytomel (T3)? I remember a friend of mine doing this on a cutting cycle which worked great for him but I remember his saying he was also running test as it was very catabolic.

Assuming, for now, I dont do my first planned cycle (whilst the docs are running blood work etc) and I just stick to what the doc is prescribing
1) are all Thyroid meds catabolic
2) Is there anything I could ask the doc for, to counter this? (If I explain I dont want to waste all thi hard earned natty muscle?)

Any advice will be greatly appreciated

 

[halfcenturian]

Guys,

I am currently a natty but looking to do my first cycle. I had to go for some routine blood work the other day so asked them to test my thyroid, test levls etc whilst I was having blood taken.

Anyways, the doc has since said he may put me on some thyroid meds (but didnt specify which yet, as its not definite) for a possible underactive thyroid.

My question is, are all thyroid meds as catabolic as cytomel (T3)? I remember a friend of mine doing this on a cutting cycle which worked great for him but I remember his saying he was also running test as it was very catabolic.

Assuming, for now, I dont do my first planned cycle (whilst the docs are running blood work etc) and I just stick to what the doc is prescribing
1) are all Thyroid meds catabolic
2) Is there anything I could ask the doc for, to counter this? (If I explain I dont want to waste all thi hard earned natty muscle?)

Any advice will be greatly appreciated

If your doctor wants to put you on thyroid meds. it's probably due to your TSH levels. I would ask him to specify why he thinks T3 may be indicated. The TSH or Thyroid Stimulating Hormone, will determine if have Hypo too low TSH or Hyper, too high TSH. If you truely fall into one of these catagories then taking meds can be of benefit. If your as losing weight. If there is pituitary dysfunction, then increased or decreased amounts of TSH may result. When TSH concentrations are increased, the thyroid will make and release inappropriate amounts of T4 and T3 and you may experience symptoms like rapid heart rate, weight loss, nervousness, hand tremors, irritated eyes, and difficulty sleeping. If there is decreased production of thyroid hormones (hypothyroidism), you may experience weight gain, dry skin, constipation, cold intolerance, and fatigue. In addition to pituitary dysfunction, hyper- or hypothyroidism can occur if there is a problem with the hypothalamus (insufficient or excessive TRH). Thyroid hormone levels may also be altered by a variety of thyroid diseases regardless of the amount of TSH present in the blood.
If you don't feel that theses apply, or if your Dr. is on the fence, then don't take T3. It IS catabolic and can cause permanent thyriod damage, which WILL cause you to be on Thyroid meds for life.

 

[WinstonChurchill]

If your doctor wants to put you on thyroid meds. it's probably due to your TSH levels. I would ask him to specify why he thinks T3 may be indicated. The TSH or Thyroid Stimulating Hormone, will determine if have Hypo too low TSH or Hyper, too high TSH. If you truely fall into one of these catagories then taking meds can be of benefit. If your as losing weight. If there is pituitary dysfunction, then increased or decreased amounts of TSH may result. When TSH concentrations are increased, the thyroid will make and release inappropriate amounts of T4 and T3 and you may experience symptoms like rapid heart rate, weight loss, nervousness, hand tremors, irritated eyes, and difficulty sleeping. If there is decreased production of thyroid hormones (hypothyroidism), you may experience weight gain, dry skin, constipation, cold intolerance, and fatigue. In addition to pituitary dysfunction, hyper- or hypothyroidism can occur if there is a problem with the hypothalamus (insufficient or excessive TRH). Thyroid hormone levels may also be altered by a variety of thyroid diseases regardless of the amount of TSH present in the blood.
If you don't feel that theses apply, or if your Dr. is on the fence, then don't take T3. It IS catabolic and can cause permanent thyriod damage, which WILL cause you to be on Thyroid meds for life.

OK thanks for the info bro. The reason he is thinking I may need them is he suspects an under active thyroid (as I am feeling some of the symptoms you just mentioned)

Assuming I do legitimately need the meds, would they still be as catabolic?

 

[halfcenturian]

I'm not a Dr. bro, But it stands to reason that it would just put you at "Normal." You can do a little homework on google, and just straight up ask your Dr. Just explain that you've been trying to get in shape and you don't want to take anything that will cause you to lose muscle mass. Hope that helps.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Thyroid at therapeutic dosages won't be that catabolic. And T3 is rarely prescribed except in cases of severe hypoT.

My advice -- ask for Armour Thyroid instead of Synthroid. It has a more natural balance of thyroid hormones.

Also, try and support the thyroid nutritionally so you can use the lowest dose of medication. Check out ZIP from Protein Factory Inc. It's designed for that very purpose.

The HRT will counteract the effects of the thyroid to a degree. In general, you should have more muscle and less fat and feel better. Not a bad deal, even if you have to depend on meds for it.

 

[WinstonChurchill]

Thyroid at therapeutic dosages won't be that catabolic. And T3 is rarely prescribed except in cases of severe hypoT.

My advice -- ask for Armour Thyroid instead of Synthroid. It has a more natural balance of thyroid hormones.

Also, try and support the thyroid nutritionally so you can use the lowest dose of medication. Check out ZIP from Protein Factory Inc. It's designed for that very purpose.

The HRT will counteract the effects of the thyroid to a degree. In general, you should have more muscle and less fat and feel better. Not a bad deal, even if you have to depend on meds for it.

OK thanks for the info Nelson.

One ting you said that I am slightly confused about is "The HRT will counteract the effects of the thyroid to a degree"
Does that mean test levels would negativly impact muscle building? I thought HRT was a low dos test course?

Can you explain a little?