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Ah, the maturity and open-mindedness of the far left....

Lumberg said:
This is what I'm talking about.

If you're talking only about free speech here you need to be more specific.

how is this different from conservatives' stance that if people are allowed to decide for themselves whether to use drugs, they might decide wrong (to ue to the point of losing control of their life and becoming a burden on society, presumably?), if people are allowed to decide for themselves whether to harvest stem cells from aborted fetuses, they may (will) make the wrong decision, which is to do it, if people are allowed to decide for themselves whether to have or perform late term abortions...

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ChefWide said:
Ever discuss any disenting opinion point with a member of the Young Christian Coalition? Daughters of the American Revolution? Your gross generalizations smack of the shallow mindedness that any level of extreme politics breeds. I had a number of neo-cons on this board suggest that I should be tried for treason and/or put to death because of my anti-war sentiments, and that they would be glad to supply the bullets needed to kill me. I am positive that Jersey remembers those threads. That is a prime example of (sic) 'strong thinkers cutting through emotionalism and maintaining objectivity in the face of an emsotional issue'? hmmmm....



Ahhh.. so your assertation that 'Liberals' are emotional and unobjective (much like neocon freak zealots) followed by this quaint 'David Attenborough Moment' suggest what? Innane commentary like this really dillutes your message and paints you as that which you profess to despise.



Ahhh.. that clears it all up for me...

Did you actually have a point?


What is yours? I never commented on whether some neocons or some religious individuals fit the same description. What is the point of this post?
 
Lumberg said:
This is what I'm talking about.

If you're talking only about free speech here you need to be more specific.

how is this different from statists' stance that if people are allowed to decide for themselves whether to use drugs, they might decide wrong (to ue to the point of losing control of their life and becoming a burden on society, presumably?), if people are allowed to decide for themselves whether to harvest stem cells from aborted fetuses, they may (will) make the wrong decision, which is to do it, if people are allowed to decide for themselves whether to have or perform late term abortions...


The drug one was the only one that stands that measure bor. The other two are life and privacy issues. You cant make determinations for another human being. The right to life is the most fundamental.

Drugs are different, and an area most conservatives and libertarians are loathe to enter, cause oridnarily we prefer that government keep its hands out of our personal lives.

Real neo cons like William Buckley have decidely pro legalization stances, and have for quite some time. Not "I smoke pot so lets legalzie poty" thing. But a "people shouldnt be baby sat by the government" stance, they arent children.
 
JerseyArt said:
The drug one was the only one that stands that measure bor. The other two are life and privacy issues. You cant make determinations for another human being. The right to life is the most fundamental.

What about stem cell research? What does the right to life have to do with that? Or is it a privacy issue?
 
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