I read that post. I hate to butt in, but it's such a shame. That's a pretty extreme form of child endangerment if I ever heard of one. Sounds like maybe the dad's trying to live through the son in some sick way. 15 is just incomprehensible, I'm 21 and have been lifting seriously for 7 years. I thought I was young...I've been wanting to do anabolic androgenic steroids since I was younger; but I understand the seriousness of these drugs. You've got to respect them. I've been researching steroids for years and I'm finally ready to begin my first cycle. I've done a lot of dumb shit in my day as well. I'm not blaming the kid, he's too young to know better, especially when his dad is behind him on it... It's just really troubling that the father is encouraging this shit. Just my 2 cents.