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after everything, its down to one of the 2

R/Tman

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which cycle looks better, this is my 4th, and yall have lead me to the following


#1

weeks 1-5 500mg test enth
weeks 6-10 750 mg test enth
weeks 1-16 500mg eq
weeks 11-16 100mg prop each day
weeks 1-10 100mg fina each day

or
#2

weeks 1-10 500mg test enth
weeks 1-16 500mg eq
weeks 11-16 100mg prop eod
weeks 8-18 100mg fina each day

jan 5th will be the starting date
 
not this again, the cycles i just listed where the 2 that everyone on here came up for me, after knowing my history and goals, i just dont know which one is better.
 
Don't worry about god of thunder, its not THAT much gear to be honest and I am very conservative. It is a long time though, and you better be prepared for the possible side effects bro. Cycle 1 looks really good if you drop the fina dosage to 75 or 50mg/day and stop the eq in week 14 instead of 16. I think that it would be a very good quality cycle if you made those minor alterations. Good luck.
 
what drop the eq at 14, what will that do, and is my idea of the test enth for 10 weeks then to prop a good idea
 
You can run the enth longer. Do it like this if you want to do the above anyways.

Week 1-8 50mg tren ed
Week 1-14 500mg test enth/week
Week 1-14 500mg eq/week
Week 15-16 100mg test prop eod

The point of using test prop at the end as well as dropping eq in week 14 are to have both drugs effectively clear your system at the same time allowing for PCT asap.
 
I like cycle 2 but at 10 weeks with 100mg I personally would drop it to 75mg ed but what's 25mg right? I've personally done 150mg eod for up to 3 months with no problems. Yeah but definately number 2. You will get enough from the test and eq to start off with then when your cycle feels like it might need a little kick later on you will be adding fina to really end the cycle off well. Not only will it work better physically but I feel psychologically the cycle will be better as well. You should have consistent gains from beginning to end with this cycle. :)
 
thanks mike, i see what ur sayin, i guess if i started the fina at first, my gains could cometo a stop at a point, and thats not good
so u think with test 500mg, eq500mg for those first 8 weeks with no fina will yeild some good gains
 
I like number one better, but I don't think you need that much test or that much fina. If you cut your gear (test) down it will not decrease your gains. Of course you need anti-e and PCT
 
Why do you bump the enanthate up to 750 at wk 6? Makes no sense to me. If anything bump it up at the start.

I like jubeis cycle the best. Go with that!

Mavy
 
I like jub's cycle best as well. However, I would run the prop another week.

Week 1-8 50mg tren ed
Week 1-14 500mg test enth/week
Week 1-14 500mg eq/week
Week 15-17 100mg test prop eod

This will definitely make sure the EQ is out of your system by the time you're done w/ the prop. And you can roll right into PCT.
 
Mike I can understand what you are saying, but I have a couple major problems/concerns with your suggested methods.

1. Eq won't kick in right away, and even the enth can take 4 weeks to start seeing the results.

2. Ending a cycle with fina might not be the best idea, because it shuts you down so hard. It could result in serious libido problems.

3. If you use tren at the end of the cycle, you have nothing fast acting to give the cycle a jump start.

Anyways, just my opinion.
 
jubei, i like ur cycle, but everyone says that run the fina mid way through to the end so the gains keep coming, if i do what u said, do u htink ill be ok and not peack uot quick
 
I keep making gains until the end just using sustanon and nothing else. I guess you have to make your own decision on that one.
 
RT you preparing for a show or something? If you are average joe ( i missed your goals thread) this is too much gear and for too long.

10-12 week cycles can yield good results and you will not crash as hard as you will after 16-18 weeks
(8 weekers work well with easier recovery - I guess depends on your goals)

Here is a nice 12 week suggestion(spinoff of your regimine above)
  • ENAN 500MG WK 1 -10 (inject 2 x weekly)
  • BOLD 500MG WK 1 -12 (inject 2 x weekly)
  • PROP 100MG EOD 11-12
  • TREN 50MG ED 6 -12
  • HCG 500IU ED 3 DAYS @ 6 WKS
  • HCG 500IU ED 6 DAYS @ WK 13
  • AROMASIN 1 TAB EOD
 
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Anyway, I hope you get your blood work done if you go through with a 16-18 week cycle. Bloodwork is always a good idea even for shorter runs, but definately for 16 weeks -IMHO
 
all im really wanting to know is how to do the fina, my last cycle i ran fina forthe first 8 weeks, so i want to know whats the best way
 
Well, to use the tren in the later weeks is more common than the earlier weeks. I would not use it longer than 6-8 weeks and less than 100mg ED with the gram + you will be taking.
 
i seen were some guys run fina 10-12 weeks pending on how they feel, if i get bllod work done and feel fine, can i run it past 8 weeks, what i mean is, will the gains be better
 
Most likely if your training and diet are dialed in you would continue to see gains. However the harder you crash and the longer it takes you to recover the more you will lose. Or you could end up on HRT for the balance of your adult life.

Moderation my good brother, again unless this is your career or something try to shorten the term you are on these drugs from 16-18 weeks to 8-12 weeks - MHO

If you are doing bloodwork and you feel fine, hey it is your body - More Power to Ya Bro :)
 
i was just wondering, cause if the reason people dont run fina longer than 8 weeks is cause the gains stop, i dont wana do it
 
Jesus dude you post a thread about this eery single day. Run it like this:

1-16 500mg of enanthate
1-16 500mg of eq
1-10 75mg of fina ed.
 
You have been given some good advice, but here is what I would do. Just run prop all the way through. You are already doing frequit shots with the fina, you'll get the test in you system faster, and out faster for your pct. You can start your pct almost immediately after your last shot.

1-16 prop 75 mg ed
1-10 tren 50 mg ed
1-12 eq 500 mg
 
jubei said:
Mike I can understand what you are saying, but I have a couple major problems/concerns with your suggested methods.

1. Eq won't kick in right away, and even the enth can take 4 weeks to start seeing the results.

2. Ending a cycle with fina might not be the best idea, because it shuts you down so hard. It could result in serious libido problems.

3. If you use tren at the end of the cycle, you have nothing fast acting to give the cycle a jump start.

Anyways, just my opinion.

Well I always start to see results within 2 weeks even. BTW - eq takes longer to kick in than test enanthate.

I never crashed badly at all even after coming off of 3 months using fina and I never completely lost my sex drive but everyone is different. Another thing is that even if you didn't end with it or not it still will affect you the same way since you are not coming off after using it.

If you want to jump start you could always frontload the eq and also the test.

Your idea seems good too and I also understand what you're saying. All the ideas listed are pretty good actually.
 
R/Tman said:
abuot the frontloading, i heard that didnt do anything but waste gear

Gear never gets wasted. It's just a way to get blood levels of the drug higher from the start. It's like creatine in a sense that although after a few weeks your muscles will be filled up with as much creatine as possible, you still can frontload with it to get it up faster from the start.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
You have been given some good advice, but here is what I would do. Just run prop all the way through. You are already doing frequit shots with the fina, you'll get the test in you system faster, and out faster for your pct. You can start your pct almost immediately after your last shot.

1-16 prop 75 mg ed
1-10 tren 50 mg ed
1-12 eq 500 mg

Also great advice and you'll look better during the cycle because you won't get asmuch bloat if any from prop.
 
RTman,
do u think prop will give better gains than enth

Prop EOD will keep levels balanced better than Enanathate E5D or worse EW.

Prop also contains more Test and lest ester by weight.. i think 20% more so you would grow more for sure.
 
R/Tman said:
abuot the frontloading, i heard that didnt do anything but waste gear

You heard wrong, frontloading is especially useful with Eq. With twelve weeks or more, the frontload is not as much of a concern IMO. I still suggest staying with 12 weeks or less, but @ least you are doing blood work.
 
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