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advise needed please

mrmoto_x

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hiya, / 2nd retype after i wasnt a platinum member :D

been reading the net for a couple a weeks about roids, have read lots of the posts on here and still aint sure enough what to do.

Im 29 years old, male, 6ft2" tall, and have trained since i was knee high to a grasshopper but rep work for fitness as ive always raced motocross and bulk slows you down. Up to 2 years back i was always around 188 to 192 pound, the last couple of years i mostly play ride and race very occasionaly so have changed my training and now weigh between 203 & 210 pound. Have also been drinking loads of York protein shakes. Took creotin for a few months but just seemed to add water.

Now i dont mind snapping the odd bone when i get it wrong on my bikes but have a real wussy thing about needles, just not interested + i dont want any in the house cos of my kids & dont want the misses to know ;) But want to try the oral ones. Here come the questions :

whats the best oral riods, i.e best results Vs least side effects?

been told should take winstrol tabs on there own to start but have read conflicting amounts of dose for newbies ? anyone help here ? Been told win is best on its own + retain bulk after cycle ... true ?

i see winstrol tabs are heavy on the liver, what are the names of the best stuff to counter the effect, is this over the counter stuff ? how much to take ?

how long should i take win, then how long off, how many times etc, again read conflicting info on this

should i take that other roid (forget its name now) after the win cycle cos win stops natural testosterone, if so what was it called again, how much, how long ?


Sorry for the essay & if you got this far big thanks for reading it hope you can help me out. Read that much on the net it started to make sense now ive overloaded and am more confused than ever.

Thanks again

mrmoto_x

p.s. .... i'd prefer to start on just one if possible cos as i see it getting just one will be easier than all different ones & its less to get my dumb head round.
 
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Edit your post and get rid of "Where do i get them in the uk ?". Also there is so much information on this board already. All you have to do is search for keyowords, "newbie", "first cycle", "winstrol", "winny"...etc...you will get plenty of info.
 
First off, if you are not gonna use needles then don't bother juicing at all. You need some major research before you attemp trying any type of AAS. There are many sites around the net to research this type of thing and this one is a good place to start

M18
 
edited it, np wasnt thinking ..

have searched and searched and searched, been manually through all 27 pages earlier today too. Lots of stuff i nearly want to know but not specifics, seemed like the most informed board / place for info so i was kinda hoping someone would take some time out and give me some thing to work to as i say ive read conflicting info so some guru help on a board moderated by other gurus would be kool as id then know where im at. Is there no way to say starting dose is dependant upon starting weight or something , ??

thanks in advance :)
 
not worth it at all is that cos of the hit on the liver ? or just cos its not as effective, i only train for 5hrs a week so im never gonna be huge just thought some would help me on a bit,
 
mrmoto_x said:
not worth it at all is that cos of the hit on the liver ? or just cos its not as effective, i only train for 5hrs a week so im never gonna be huge just thought some would help me on a bit,

Orals are generally harder on the body and the majority are harder to maintain the gains post cycle. Injections are easy! There are no excuses not to do it as there are always ways to hide it from your spouse or kids.

M18
 
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