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Advice regarding first cycle

merdeven

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Hi all,

New member here. Have been reading posts for a while--really helpful...thanks. Am hoping I can get some good feedback on what's likely going to be my first cycle.

I am 31, 5'10", 175 lbs, 10% bf. Looking to gain 10-15 lbs of quality muscle while continuing to drop bf. I'm totally fine taking my time to build--my priority is quality muscle that I can hold on to, with low side effects.

This is what was recommended to me:

Week 1
Eq 200 mg, Test Cyp 200 mg

Week 2-4
Eq 400 mg, Test Cyp 400 mg

Week 5-8
Eq 600 mg, Test Cyp 600 mg, Winny 20 mg

Week 9
Eq 200 mg, Test Cyp 200 mg, Winny 20 mg

Week 10
HCG 5000 iu, Winny 20 mg

Week 11-12
Test Cyp 200 mg

(Nolvadex at 10 mg/day every day throughout)​

To mitigate DHT effects/hair loss, I've got minoxidil and finasteride, which I've already started started taking.

This cycle seems pretty well thought out to me, but I'd really appreciate comments. Specifically:

1) Do you think this will meet my high-quality muscle/low side effect goal?
2) Do you think this is a safe bet for the 10-15 lb goal (I know I need to be lifting hard and eating well)?
3) Any ideas from personal experience how quickly I might see results?
4) What's the point of ramping down the Test Cyp--is that necessary? That's the only part that seems a little strange to me.
5) I'm actually heading to the beach in 1 month, and don't want any water bloat. So I'm thinking of maybe holding off on starting till after I get back. Do you think bloating will be an issue with this combo?

Thanks for your advice--much appreciated.

Merdeven
 
a first cycle should be test only at about 400mgs a week throughout. I wouldnt start pct till you are finished with the winny.
 
oh, hcg should be 1000ui every other day for 20 days. and dont ramp the test. you dont need two compounds for your first cycle. you should definately gain 10-15 lbs of good muscle with test alone. start arimidex a couple days before first inject to keep the bloat down.
 
also, you dont need winny if your bf is 10. thats pretty low.. The only compound i would recommend with the test is maybe some dbol to kick it off since you wont see anything from the test for about 4 weeks.
 
merdeven:

I would use either 400mgs of both or 600mgs of both the Test C & EQ for the whole 12 wks. 200 of both is a waste of money.
 
500mg of test and 400mg of eq. try to get some arimidex to run it along your cycle that way you won't get the bloat from your test and prevent aromatization as well. I highly recommend to run the adex through out your cycle.
 
jeb0177 said:
500mg of test and 400mg of eq. try to get some arimidex to run it along your cycle that way you won't get the bloat from your test and prevent aromatization as well. I highly recommend to run the adex through out your cycle.


I'm a little surprised so many people are pushing me toward test! From what I've read in past posts/researched, this seems pretty aggressive for a first timer...

While everyone has their opinion regarding the cycle, does does anyone have any responses to my actual questions?
 
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