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Advice re: ED post PCT

Swill1985

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Hi guys,

I posted a while back on another thread and received a lot of valuable advice from you guys. Basically, I took a course of DBol oral 50mg a day for 4 weeks as my first cycle from mid October to mid November and didn't have a PCT after it (I know, I made some ridiculous mistakes following being misinformed and foolishly trusting bad advice from people, trust me it will never happen again, I am more clued up now and lesson learnt).

Basically after 3 weeks of finishing the cycle (around the 9th December) I started having problems with my erections not being as firm. I understand now this was likely due to the test leaving my system and my natural levels being low. The issue got progressively worse over the following week or so which is when I asked from advice from you guys and found out about the importance of a PCT.

Before finding out the detail from yourselves though I was again misadvised by guys in my gym who sorted me some HCG and gave me 2 jabs (18th Dec and 4 days later) and recommended a 3rd jab 4 days later too but as the dose they were doing was 5000iu and I learnt from you guys that is too much in one go I didnt have the third.

I also got hold of and started running Clomid at the same time and run it for 3 weeks at 100/50/25.

However, I am still experiencing issues with ED, I cannot get a full erection without viagra and my libido is still on the floor. I have had bloods done with my docs at the beginning of the week and they said that the test levels came back as normal. The doctor also felt my nads and said that everything feels fine and normal. I dont think it is psychological as I am not that way inclined and the boner is still an issue when watching porn, its not just performance anxiety.

I am also now for the last week taking HCGenerate but it has not had any effect as of yet.

Is it normal for this to still be affecting me two months after I stopped taking the dBol and given the circumstances can any of you hazard a guess at how long this will last? Its really starting to concern me that I cant see the situation improving.

Is there any danger I may have done myself some permanent damage? Also, is there a possibility that given the high dosages of HCG I run that it has caused some negative feedback?

also, is there anything further I can do to get things back to normal as quickly as possible?

Many thanks for your help and advice guys, its hugely appreciated!
Swill
 
Just an update...

I found out more about my blood results today after contacting my GP and I found out that my testosterone level was fine (apparently normal levels are between 7 and 32 and mine came out at 29 so the higher side of normal too... those figures may mean more to you than they do to me). But they did however tell me as you guys had said that my Oestrogen levels were high (292, does that figure mean anything to you guys? Am I right in thinking this will definitely be the issue?).

I've checked and the only thing I can get hold of is Arimidex, I cant get hold of Aromasin. Would this suffice and what dosage should I run it at? Do I run it by itself or would I need to run it with another course of Clomid?
The other option is to just wait it out but I have no idea how long that will take... I'm stuck in two minds at the moment and really dont know what to do. If I do decide to wait it out, is it best that I stop taking HCGenerate, the natural testosterone booster I am taking at the moment?

What do you guys think? Any help would be hugely appreciated!
 
Since your estrogen is so high I would start the adex immediately and get some forma as well. Run the adex at 0.5 mg Ed with the forma. I also suggest getting some unleashed or test infusion to lower shbg as in sure that's probably high as well. I'd run those for about a month and get more bloods to see where your at. The ai combo should lower the estrogen and with the unleashed your sex drive should improve. It's going to take a little time but everything should bounce back.


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I was wondering what the f that word was!! Didnt see the o in front lol

Yeap, adex .25 eod two weeks run bloods

But still what is your lh and fsh?
 
Thanks for all your help guys!

Excuse my ignorance but what is Forma? And also should I stop running the HCGenerate that I have been using or is that not having any bearing on my Estrogen levels? And what is the difference between HCGenerate and Unleashed? I bought HCGenerate from a retailer here in the UK, do NTBM ship directly to the UK from their web site?

In terms of my bloods, I dont really know much about them and only had a brief chat with the nurse when I called up on the phone - she stated they tested for blood sugar, liver function, testosterone and estrogen, and stated that the estrogen was quite high at 292 - I have no idea what that means in context. Im a total rookie... Would they have done my LH and FSH as part of the bloods I listed above do you think or is it separate? I can ask and find out when I have my Docs appointment on Monday.
 
Thanks for all your help guys!

Excuse my ignorance but what is Forma? And also should I stop running the HCGenerate that I have been using or is that not having any bearing on my Estrogen levels? And what is the difference between HCGenerate and Unleashed? I bought HCGenerate from a retailer here in the UK, do NTBM ship directly to the UK from their web site?

In terms of my bloods, I dont really know much about them and only had a brief chat with the nurse when I called up on the phone - she stated they tested for blood sugar, liver function, testosterone and estrogen, and stated that the estrogen was quite high at 292 - I have no idea what that means in context. Im a total rookie... Would they have done my LH and FSH as part of the bloods I listed above do you think or is it separate? I can ask and find out when I have my Docs appointment on Monday.

High estro can cause no libido plain and simple.

Forma is an ai so is adex personally Id use adex like I said

I sure as hell hope they test lh and fsh go to the doc and tell him you want a copy of the bloods
 
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