Advice On New Upcoming Cycle

[1tight_tl]

So I Ended my last cycle back in november. Here is what i did
I went from 148lbs up to 169lbs and then dieted down to 163lbs where I am now. I am 5'7 163lbs and 9% bf for stats

Dbol 40mg day for week 1-4
Sust 500 week 1-16
EQ 600 week 1-16
Tried Running winnie to end but it was bogus

Then PCT.....

Since then I have been taking dermacrine and unleashed, then post cycle and sustain till I start again in feb or march...

I am about 163lbs now, working EXTREMELY HARD in the gym and want to get to 170-175lbs and bring the body fat down from 9% to 5-7%. I know my diet has to be on point..and it will be...I was thinking about these compounds but need some help. I have done 6-8 cycles and have take most all compounds except the two i want to try...

Dbol weeks 1-4 40mg day for kickstart
Test prop 500mg/week
Primo 600 ?
Winnie or Anavar at the end 40-60mg/day on Var, 75-100mg on Winnie

Wondering about masteron, can that be added or should primo and masteron not be put together or should i sub one for another? Masteron and Primo are the only two substances I have not run...

thanks in advance

 

[GUARDIAN]

The dbol may be a little bit of overkill (since u r taking test prop) for the kickstart but hey a little dbol didnt hurt nobody. Keep the primo and add the winstrol the last six weeks.

 

[1tight_tl]

The Dianabol - methandrostenolone - may be a little bit of overkill (since u r taking test testosterone propionate) for the kickstart but hey a little Dianabol - methandrostenolone - didnt hurt nobody. Keep the Primobolan - methenolone - and add the winstrol the last six weeks.

ha ha..I hear you..I love running dbol to start. It makes me super strong and the pumps are incredible. Whats the difference between running the pimmo and masteron and is 600mg ok? I have heard others say you need to run it at higher doses like 800mg to get good results...

 

[GUARDIAN]

I have run primmo from 600mg anywhere to 1g. All good results. I do think it needs to be a little higher for an experienced user.

I can't comment about the masteron, never taken it. But I hear it is good at stripping fat.

I would probably still sneak the dbol in to...lol. I love the strength as well!

 

[1tight_tl]

ok so something like this

dbol 40mg day week 1-4
test prop 500week 1-12
primo 600 week 1-12
winnie 6-12
...
how much of a difference of using the primo will i see..this is very similar to my last cycle..almost just switching the primo and eq and at same dosages

 

[H_T_]

primo, pffff. prope/mast is a great cycle. keep it simple...

 

[GUARDIAN]

ok so something like this

Dianabol - methandrostenolone - 40mg day week 1-4
test testosterone propionate 500week 1-12
Primobolan - methenolone - 600 week 1-12
winnie 6-12
...
how much of a difference of using the Primobolan - methenolone - will i see..this is very similar to my last cycle..almost just switching the Primobolan - methenolone - and Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and at same dosages

Probably not much difference. Very similar with respect to slow & lean gains. Just a personal preference with me and primmo. But Equipoise has a small place in my heart, after all it started with an attempt to make an injectible long lasting dbol.

 

[1tight_tl]

Primobolan - methenolone - , pffff. prope/mast is a great cycle. keep it simple...

what is mast gonna do different?..I have not run it before and i have read it has great fat burning effect...Thats why I am asking....Same with primo, i hear some people say if you cant afford primo just do eq.

 

[H_T_]

what is mast gonna do different?..I have not run it before and i have read it has great fat burning effect...Thats why I am asking....Same with Primobolan - methenolone - , i hear some people say if you cant afford Primobolan - methenolone - just do Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - .

roids don't burn fat. some cause more water retention than others, mainly test and the big orals. mast provides hardness and a nice big boost in strength. and it's much more cost efficient.

 

[1tight_tl]

I realize fat loss is diet but I read this and that why i wondered about the lean gains with fat loss........
"Masteron is a stronger androgen than it appears on paper, and and this could cause increased aggression. As we know, higher androgens also produce that "hard" look prized by competitive BB´ers and as we all know, androgens also promote lypolysis (fat loss)"

I mean if primo is just like eq..i just ran eq in my last cycle and why pay more for primo...even though i am looking to add more lean muscle again...I dont know what benifits masteron would give me..The Hard lean look.....like eq, like winnie...I guess I am having a difficult time which which chemical fits best for what I am attempting to accomplish...primos or masteron

 

[Nelson Montana]

4 weeks of dball at 40 mgs is a lot more than a "kick start."

Mast and Primmo are similar though Mast can be harder on the hair.

 

[1tight_tl]

4 weeks of dball at 40 mgs is a lot more than a "kick start."

Mast and Primmo are similar though Mast can be harder on the hair.

Ha Ha..U may be correct but man it does the trick for me...and it never gives me any sides or problems....I am just trying to figure what the difference is and what benifits I will gain from primo/masteron vs. take some cheap ass eq that i took last time...I am just trying to try new substances and see how I respond seeing that i have run eq a few times..works great but just wanted to see if these would be better for me.

 

[1tight_tl]

alright well i guess no one can help better inform be of whether to take masteron or primo and what the advantages and disadvantages or each would be...

 

[1tight_tl]

ok...no one?