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Advice on cycle

grafix-GNC

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My first cycle, please criticize so that i can improve, i would like to add test, but money is a problem, wish i could run winny ED but cant afford. i am aware of the number of injections that i will have to do...

6 week cycle
1-6: 75mg tren ED
1-6: 50mg winny EOD

im 5'11, approximately 16% bf
just tryin to cut little
 
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I think that looks excellent, I wouldn't change a thing. Get your post-cycle dialed in now, proviron, clomid, etc.
 
grafix-GNC said:
should i start clomid at week 5 at 50mg's ED?? thats what i need advice on mostly

I wouldn't. I would start it at the end of week 7 if your last shot is the end of week 6. Get some proviron too.

week 8-clomid 300mg day1, rest of week 100mg
weeks 9 and 10-clomid 50mg/day....proviron 50mg/day

start cycle again week 14, maybe with prop this time.
 
Since you mentioned test as a possibility I'm assuming you have access to it. You also said money was a consideration, as it is for most. I'd advise you to consider replacing one of you other two components with test. The winstrol and treb are quite similar in action from my experience. They both also work great with any pure tes. Neither treb. nor winny is actually test but the suppress natural test production. Since test is involved regulating alot of other functions besides mucsle growth, most notably some mental functions, its a bad things in my opinion to supress real test and only have the winny or treb active in your system. For some its fine, but in more than a few it produces some behavioral changes which range from mild to fucking outrageous, all depending on each individual. If it were me I'd skip the winny, which I found to be far less effective than the treb. Removing the winny and replacing it with cheaper test will help out your cash situation some. I am sure you'll see better reults and you will still get the hard lean gains you are looking for. If hardness is paramount reinvest some of the dough you save swithcing from winny to test and pick up some arimidex, preferably the cheaper liquidex. Test and treb is a killer stack. I'd stick with the 6 week for the treb. but I'd run the test atleast 10 weeks. Believe me when I say the extra money will be well spent bro, cuz as long as you come off proper ly with plenty of clomid you'll keep the lion's share of your gains. I'd advise startying the clomid at 100mg daily for the first week and run it at 50 mg daily for 3 more just to be safe. The stuff is cheap and keeping those hard earned gains is what counts. Hit me up if I missed anything or you have more questions bro. Best of luck.
 
I agree with aka, if money is a problem, I would not be using winny. also, didn't see you were doing the winny eod, that is going to make it much less effective. if I were you I'd do 75mg prop/75mg fina ed for 6 weeks and then take 6 off, then go right back on. forget the liquidex, you won't need it with the prop and it's just another cost for you.

get some clomid and nolvadex tho.
 
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