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ichabodcrane
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First tell us your stats, goals, and cycle experience! Ref-b is a great product, and I think you will find it advantageous in your cycle! I usually use 2 cc's/day divided. The results are typical and great. But you may, may not need that much depending on you goals, experience etc.
cool...here ya go
188 lbs
5'9"
30 years old
1st cycle was 6 weeks of T200
2nd cycle was deca 300 mgs a week (didnt really like the deca)
upjohns test. 400mgs a week (great shit!!!)
had some great gains from the upjohns. i dont eat as much as i should... so my results could have been better, but i am very happy with the results of my last cycle... so now i am looking to gain a little more mass... i really dont want to be huge, just a little bit bigger. so i have some more upjohns and a 50ml bottle of refovit b ... i have heard a couple of different ways to cycle it...
just wanted some suggestions... thanks guys!! i always get the best advice from this board!!
pornlab
188 lbs
5'9"
30 years old
1st cycle was 6 weeks of T200
2nd cycle was deca 300 mgs a week (didnt really like the deca)
upjohns test. 400mgs a week (great shit!!!)
had some great gains from the upjohns. i dont eat as much as i should... so my results could have been better, but i am very happy with the results of my last cycle... so now i am looking to gain a little more mass... i really dont want to be huge, just a little bit bigger. so i have some more upjohns and a 50ml bottle of refovit b ... i have heard a couple of different ways to cycle it...
just wanted some suggestions... thanks guys!! i always get the best advice from this board!!
pornlab
ichabodcrane
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This is just a suggestion and not a recommendation, but you could try 1 to 1.5 mL's (25-37.5 mg) of the Ref-b. This may be enough, or it may not. Try it for 1-2 weeks and see if you get reasonable results. You may decide to bump it up or keep it as is depending how you feel. But try dividing the dosages at least 2x/day, 3-4 would be better for more stable blood levels. Run it for the 1st 4-5 weeks of your cycle to kick start it. You could save the rest(if you have any) for a 10 mg/day bridge when you finish cycle after proper post-cycle therapy. You could use gel caps, take it straight, sublingual, with water, juice, whichever you like. Some don't like the taste of it, but I love it. I know it's real when it tastes like shit. It's really not that bad IMO, but it is good stuff. For the price you can't beat it. You should notice increase strength, water weight and great pumps within 2 weeks. Good luck friend
Ichabod, Damn your tolerance for bad tasting shit must be high! I can tolerate Carao in juice, I can tolerate Arginine in juice.... Revorvit in anything but a gelcap makes me immediately vomit!
Pornlab, I would advise you to stick to the lower end of Ichabod's recommended dose for at least the first week (1cc or 25 mg total per day). His advice of dosing 3-4x per day is right on, due to the half life of dbol being so short (i.e. start-out with 1/4cc 4x per day). The reason I am recommending you not go over 25mg to start with, is because I find that a lot of people have severe water retention problems (which hit quickly!) on dbol. The rapid increase in water weight can cause your blood pressure to spike, which typically causes the onset of some pretty bad headaches (and for some people, a bad temper).
I have used most of the popular brands of dbol over the years and Reforvit is definitely one of my favorites (seems to be dosed properly versus some other brands such as Ttokyo). I find that my max gains on dbol occur at about 50mg per day and anything over that just causes the side effects to get worse, without any additional increase in gains. I personally can't go to a 50mg dose without the use of at least a moderate amount of an anti-estrogen, due to the fact that I turn into a blow fish (I hold more water on dbol than anything else, including large amounts of test). Taking an anti-e to keep the water off definitely inhibits the strength gains I get from dbol, but in addition to keeping my blood pressure down, it prevents everyone from knowing I am "on". Some people don't care about the fact that the rapid increase in water weight when they go on and the subsequent "deflation" when they go off makes it obvious that they juice.... Personally, I don't want the type of attention that causes at the gym and certainly not at work. Most people at work "suspect" that I use chemical assistance (I am 6'1" and my weight typically hovers between 245-255, waist is usually around 33-34").... But keeping the bloat off and my weight from fluctuating too quickly helps keep the general consensus to "suspecting", as opposed to "knowing". Aside from that, I know that given my history with juice (started right after high school 13 years ago) any rapid increase in strength gain causes me to want to train very heavy, which can lead to ligament and tendon injury. Since the age of 22, after a few injuries (ligaments in my elbows, shoulder, lower back...), I have opted for slower steady gains as opposed to quick weight gains and frequent set-backs.
Pornlab, I would advise you to stick to the lower end of Ichabod's recommended dose for at least the first week (1cc or 25 mg total per day). His advice of dosing 3-4x per day is right on, due to the half life of dbol being so short (i.e. start-out with 1/4cc 4x per day). The reason I am recommending you not go over 25mg to start with, is because I find that a lot of people have severe water retention problems (which hit quickly!) on dbol. The rapid increase in water weight can cause your blood pressure to spike, which typically causes the onset of some pretty bad headaches (and for some people, a bad temper).
I have used most of the popular brands of dbol over the years and Reforvit is definitely one of my favorites (seems to be dosed properly versus some other brands such as Ttokyo). I find that my max gains on dbol occur at about 50mg per day and anything over that just causes the side effects to get worse, without any additional increase in gains. I personally can't go to a 50mg dose without the use of at least a moderate amount of an anti-estrogen, due to the fact that I turn into a blow fish (I hold more water on dbol than anything else, including large amounts of test). Taking an anti-e to keep the water off definitely inhibits the strength gains I get from dbol, but in addition to keeping my blood pressure down, it prevents everyone from knowing I am "on". Some people don't care about the fact that the rapid increase in water weight when they go on and the subsequent "deflation" when they go off makes it obvious that they juice.... Personally, I don't want the type of attention that causes at the gym and certainly not at work. Most people at work "suspect" that I use chemical assistance (I am 6'1" and my weight typically hovers between 245-255, waist is usually around 33-34").... But keeping the bloat off and my weight from fluctuating too quickly helps keep the general consensus to "suspecting", as opposed to "knowing". Aside from that, I know that given my history with juice (started right after high school 13 years ago) any rapid increase in strength gain causes me to want to train very heavy, which can lead to ligament and tendon injury. Since the age of 22, after a few injuries (ligaments in my elbows, shoulder, lower back...), I have opted for slower steady gains as opposed to quick weight gains and frequent set-backs.
ichabodcrane
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Thats funny bro! I actually do love the taste of it. So much so, I will let it sit under my tongue for 5-10 minutes then give a swish and swallow. I have never tried any other brand of d-bol so I cannot compare. Ref-b has always been great for me. I don't think it has ever been faked (but I could be wrong). The great thing with ref, is that you can always do the H20 precipitation test to check to see if you have an active steroid. Although it is not specific for methandrostenelone, it still tells you there is some hormone in there. Just seeing it precipitate out when I squirt my dose in a glass of water gets me psyched. Ref-b has gone through many lable changes. I remember with some of the older ones, the lables were barely hanging on, and they looked like something a 5 yr. old kid put together. But they never failed to work, ever. I am a true advocate of ref-b (can you tell?) When I first used it, I ran 1 mL/day for the first 2 weeks and results were ok. But, when I bumped it up to 1.5-2, man I put on some serious weight. You are right, it will bloat you up and if you are prone to high BP (which I am), take necessary precautions. More does not necessarily mean better with d-bol. I also found that when I go above 50 mg/d, the benefit/risk ratio is not worth it IMO.
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