Adding HGH To Sust/Deca mid-cycle

[qZanity]

Currently half way though a sust/deca cycle, I'm wondering if it would be beneficial for me to start hgh now? And run for another 8 months. Looking for some size and lean out a little which half way though hgh I'll throw in some cardio and maybe anavar .

Currently doing 16 week sust/deca cycle, I'm on 9th week.
I heard hgh really helps with pct and keeping your aas gains, giving you a much more permenant look, since I hate coming of roids and feeling much smaller.
Stats:
Age: 23
Weight: 90kg
Height: 5,11"
BF: around 13%
Training 2 years for least 4 days per week.
Or would I be better off extending this course for another 16 weeks or something, heard some positive things about long cycles. I just find even though I diet and train well after pct I lose a considerable amount of size.

Pct will be standard nolva, clomid.

Also I was going to add the hgh now, run the last 8 weeks of my sust/deca then complete pct, rest 2 months after pct, then hgh should be very active right now, so do 10 weeks test/tren.

Thanks.

 

[Jbranken]

You're pct of two serms is a bit outdated. Probably half the reason you're losing gains. That and only two years of training. As for hgh, I see no added benefit at 23

 

[rustilldown]

Unless you have injuries or medical conditions at your age HGH isn't necessary unless you plan to high dose and become a BBer. Now I do see some benefits of HGH on long cycles for the sole reason of cell regeneration, skin and hair staying healthy and tissue ligament strengthening , but still, you'd be spending alot of money when you could just use it to buy fooooood and a better pct.

Also I don't Reccomend running deca for 32 weeks. 16 will have you suppressed enough man.

 

[qZanity]

The pct may be outdated but it's proven to kick start natural test production more so then all those ntbm paid advertisement products.

So after my 16 weeks cycle when is the soonest I can start another cycle? Or adding anything to extend the cycle as I don't want to come off yet, what about jumping on anavar for 12 weeks for my cutting?

Cheers

 

[Jbranken]

The pct may be outdated but it's proven to kick start natural test production more so then all those ntbm paid advertisement products.

So after my 16 weeks cycle when is the soonest I can start another cycle? Or adding anything to extend the cycle as I don't want to come off yet, what about jumping on anavar for 12 weeks for my cutting?

Cheers

Actually, Nolva does nothing to restore your hpta and the improvements in lh and total test from clomid are only temporary. So, in fact, you are wrong. Before you try to correct me, try to learn a thing or two. You don't know how to run steroids, let alone recover from them. I recovered from my last cycle without a SERM and using only natural products, so it shows how much you know

 

[qZanity]

I am not trying to correct you, I'm just saying the ntbm products are highly marketed, and spoke about alot here at EF, if you was to goto any other steroid forum (uk muscle, ) and try telling them that the ntbm products are better then nolva/clomid they would bite your head off.

I know ntbm and I'm sure his products are great, but I have never used them and feel safer with something that's been used by professional athletes and bodybuilders for years. Anyway thanks for the advice.

 

[goin on 4T]

I am not trying to correct you, I'm just saying the ntbm products are highly marketed, and spoke about alot here at EF, if you was to goto any other steroid forum (uk muscle, ) and try telling them that the ntbm products are better then nolva/clomid they would bite your head off.

I know ntbm and I'm sure his products are great, but I have never used them and feel safer with something that's been used by professional athletes and bodybuilders for years. Anyway thanks for the advice.

And those are the same guys that told you take gh?
LMFAO

 

[Jbranken]

I am not trying to correct you, I'm just saying the ntbm products are highly marketed, and spoke about alot here at EF, if you was to goto any other steroid forum (uk muscle, ) and try telling them that the ntbm products are better then nolva/clomid they would bite your head off.

I know ntbm and I'm sure his products are great, but I have never used them and feel safer with something that's been used by professional athletes and bodybuilders for years. Anyway thanks for the advice.

So breast cancer drugs are better than supplements with ingredients that are proven to boost natural test? Boosting endogenous test is the goal, after all... Not to mention, I'm keeping my gains and you're not. Just saying...

I think serms can have a place in pct still, but there are numerous OTC supps that do the job much better these days by themselves or used in conjunction with a SERM. some steroid gurus back in the day claimed these serms were the answer to pct but then later retracted their original statements about them, saying they weren't very effective at restoring the hpta. Unfortunately people never caught on. Theyre outdated and there's certainly no point in running two of them together in my eyes

 

[qZanity]

Ok so I guess I should be more active around here and learn from you guys as you seem to know what your talking about.

So the pct your running in your eyes beat clomid/nolva hands don?

What does your PCT look like? Which products are people taking here?

Thanks