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Anyone agree/disagree with what this person says?
There is a substance, called BZP (benzylpiperazine diHcl), which is VERY cheap and not controlled in the US. You can only order it in its powder form (usually 25 grams minimum, but some companies will send a "free sample"). I have used this for probably over 5 months, and it feels almost exactly like d-amphetamine (dexedrine). I had to go through a bunch of BS with some doctors, first trying ritalin (which sucks for me), now I am on Adderal, which feels about the same as the BZP, but lasts longer, so i no longer need to use BZP.
It is sold on a few sites on the web, one very reliable place is www.****************.com I think it is around $95 for 25 grams, and 100mg of it = about 7.5mg of dexedrine (or 10mg Adderal). Many people i know have used bzp, one friend uses it daily (he does not have insurance, money, to see a doc and go through all that right now). No side effects have been reported by anyone i know, there are just a "few" people on the internet, who bash bzp, talking about "2 day hangover's" and crap like that, which none of us have experienced. These are the same people that don't want anyone to purchase any "research chemicals" at all, because there's always the chance of the FDA/DEA cracking down, if its use risen enough. But right now, it is not a controlled substance, in Switzerland and around that area, its widely used for recreational purposes (as any ADD med can), and becoming one of the most used "drugs of abuse" there. It is illegal to "ingest" a non-FDA approved chem like this, but not legal to posess or order.
The above company mentioned, it took only a week to deliver, they offer all kinds of other wierd chemicals, mainly other strange piperazines. But the only one that has the same (or very similar, i cant tell much difference between bzp and adderal) effects as an amphetamine-like drug would be BZP. The company has sent out free samples before, if you ask kindly, maybe suggest you want to try their product first before ordering 25 grams, they might ship you 1-5 grams free (when they did this for me, they even covered the shipping charge). If you really need something for your ADD/ADHD, its at least worth a shot to ask for a free sample, but DO NOT say you are going to use it for add/adhd, or ingest it at all, it would be illegal for them to sell it to you then (even though the only reason they have it, the only use for it.. is an amphetamine substitute). 25 grams is a LOT of doses, but you have to measure it (it is not that dose sensitive, once you know what 100, or 200mg looks like, you dont even need a scale), and put it into capsules (capsules are cheap to order online in bulk).
Anyway, do some research on bzp if you wish, or kindly ask the company above if you can purchase a small sample (they will probably give it to you for free, they did for me anyway), that way you can play around with dosages (start small and work up), and see if its alright for you.
Like i said i've used it for 5 months, quite often, i usually used 150-200mg for a dose, it lasts 4-6 hours or so, maybe a tad longer, and i have never gotten any "hangover" or even a headache after use. Only bad thing is it does tend to supress the appetite, while you are on it, but i find that i can take it with a big meal and it still works fine.
Anyone agree/disagree with what this person says?
There is a substance, called BZP (benzylpiperazine diHcl), which is VERY cheap and not controlled in the US. You can only order it in its powder form (usually 25 grams minimum, but some companies will send a "free sample"). I have used this for probably over 5 months, and it feels almost exactly like d-amphetamine (dexedrine). I had to go through a bunch of BS with some doctors, first trying ritalin (which sucks for me), now I am on Adderal, which feels about the same as the BZP, but lasts longer, so i no longer need to use BZP.
It is sold on a few sites on the web, one very reliable place is www.****************.com I think it is around $95 for 25 grams, and 100mg of it = about 7.5mg of dexedrine (or 10mg Adderal). Many people i know have used bzp, one friend uses it daily (he does not have insurance, money, to see a doc and go through all that right now). No side effects have been reported by anyone i know, there are just a "few" people on the internet, who bash bzp, talking about "2 day hangover's" and crap like that, which none of us have experienced. These are the same people that don't want anyone to purchase any "research chemicals" at all, because there's always the chance of the FDA/DEA cracking down, if its use risen enough. But right now, it is not a controlled substance, in Switzerland and around that area, its widely used for recreational purposes (as any ADD med can), and becoming one of the most used "drugs of abuse" there. It is illegal to "ingest" a non-FDA approved chem like this, but not legal to posess or order.
The above company mentioned, it took only a week to deliver, they offer all kinds of other wierd chemicals, mainly other strange piperazines. But the only one that has the same (or very similar, i cant tell much difference between bzp and adderal) effects as an amphetamine-like drug would be BZP. The company has sent out free samples before, if you ask kindly, maybe suggest you want to try their product first before ordering 25 grams, they might ship you 1-5 grams free (when they did this for me, they even covered the shipping charge). If you really need something for your ADD/ADHD, its at least worth a shot to ask for a free sample, but DO NOT say you are going to use it for add/adhd, or ingest it at all, it would be illegal for them to sell it to you then (even though the only reason they have it, the only use for it.. is an amphetamine substitute). 25 grams is a LOT of doses, but you have to measure it (it is not that dose sensitive, once you know what 100, or 200mg looks like, you dont even need a scale), and put it into capsules (capsules are cheap to order online in bulk).
Anyway, do some research on bzp if you wish, or kindly ask the company above if you can purchase a small sample (they will probably give it to you for free, they did for me anyway), that way you can play around with dosages (start small and work up), and see if its alright for you.
Like i said i've used it for 5 months, quite often, i usually used 150-200mg for a dose, it lasts 4-6 hours or so, maybe a tad longer, and i have never gotten any "hangover" or even a headache after use. Only bad thing is it does tend to supress the appetite, while you are on it, but i find that i can take it with a big meal and it still works fine.
